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Any news on if KARGESE for next season ?
She's super tough with size,vscpe and might be one for the Arkle ???

She'll be given a light start to the year like lossiemouth and gala marceau I'd imagine

Can't see her being sent chasing at 4 going on 5 myself
 
Any news on if KARGESE for next season ?
She's super tough with size,vscpe and might be one for the Arkle ???

After she pulled the last few times Willie mentioned possibly chasing, it was in the context of the fences maybe helping her settle.

However, she seemed to settle much better yesterday so will be interesting to hear if this has any bearing on what they plan on doing with her next season.

They went chasing with Zenta last year straight out of the juvenile ranks but it only lasted one run.
 
I'd be surprised if either one of Kargese or Jade de Grugy doesn't try their hand at chasing being the same connections
 
Chasing was mentioned post-Aintree:
“Kargese has some engine, she pulls so hard. We’re going to have to change a few things about her as if we can get her to settle in a race, she is a real machine I’d say.

“I’d say she’s big enough to go chasing and sometimes those horses settle better over fences.”
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https://www.irishracing.com/news/Galopin-Des-Champs-heading-Punchestown-'A-team'-for-Mullins/247227


Hurdling seemed to be preferred post-Punchestown:
“She is big enough to jump a fence,” said Mullins. “I’d imagine she will stay over hurdles but we’ll have a word with Peter Molony (Alexander’s racing manager) to see what he thinks.”
https://www.irishracing.com/news/Kargese-provides-Mullins-with-yet-another-Grade-1-victory/247649


Draw your own conclusions :indecisiveness: I think Kargese stays hurdling and have backed as such
 
Cheers for Kargese info, got her nicely covered in the Mares Hurdle so may have a few bob on her at 25/1 Arkle for coverage.
 
Would there not be reservations about Kargese seeing out a true 2 1/2 around Cheltenham ?
 
Would there not be reservations about Kargese seeing out a true 2 1/2 around Cheltenham ?

Didnt we say the same about Lossie last year? But ive been on the San Miguel since midday :very_drunk:
Me West Country Cousin?
 
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Didnt we say the same about Lossie last year? But ive been on the San Miguel since midday :very_drunk:
Me West Country Cousin?

Yes we did. Good point. Lossiemouth is a very special Mare though . She's right up there. Not sure Kargese can reach her heights.
 
anybody heard anything about Theleme for next season ?

Ask Darlojim. He worships the horse:excitement:

Still waiting for my refund on him that he guaranteed me........:teapot:
 
Ask Darlojim. He worships the horse:excitement:

Still waiting for my refund on him that he guaranteed me........:teapot:

He would have hacked up in that shite bag of a race :watermelon:

He was due to reappear in the French Champion in May but is now targeting an Autumn campaign, so presume that hasn't recovered as quick as expected.
 
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I know Jasmin De Vaux was obviously injured or something last week.....but jesus the Champion Bumper form took some battering all week at Punchestown!!
 
Tiger Bay Queen declared for Div 1 of the Mares Novice at Tipperary on Thursday. I know Peter Fahey considers her possibly the best he has trained, and hopefully, she can bring him a much-needed change of luck. A chaser down the road but, at six years old, could stay over hurdles this season and was, for a short time, AP favourite for the Mares Novice last year.
 
Tiger Bay Queen declared for Div 1 of the Mares Novice at Tipperary on Thursday. I know Peter Fahey considers her possibly the best he has trained, and hopefully, she can bring him a much-needed change of luck. A chaser down the road but, at six years old, could stay over hurdles this season and was, for a short time, AP favourite for the Mares Novice last year.

Cheers BOF. Been waiting for her forever! Shame she's not yet priced up anywhere for the MNH. Could be another JP special.
 
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Cheers BOF. Been waiting for her forever! Shame she's not yet priced up anywhere for the MNH. Could be another JP special.


…a WTAF offer would be of interest tomorrow.
 
…..feel sick watching Hidden Law break down so badly after impressively winning the Chester Vase. Very sad.
 
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