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[DonnyBoy]

Its a stick on certainly Tiger

 

[DonnyBoy]

With a pretty mediocre Ante Post portfolio this season troubled by injuries from the get go. I'm half tempted to say fuck it and follow you in lol.

You know it makes sense mate..cant be any worse a strategy is the way i see it.

 

[MTR]

Having survived 'the beast from the east', covid threatening to cancel the festival and a guy sitting on a dead horse.... just need a moment to remind myself that two high profile injured horses on the same day is tame compared to what we've dealt with in recent years :highly_amused:




I am absolutely wounded right now though.

Your forgetting that time there was some sort of horse flu or something like that and it was also in jeopardy over that :eagerness:

 

[Atlantic Viking]

Weirdly wasn't that bothered about CH (from a purely punting POV) as i'd already got him wrong earlier in the year thinking he'd be going chasing :excitement::boxing: Marine is a decent sized kick in the balls however. I suppose if there's a positive to find amongst it it was the run at DRF which left you with little choice but to start considering alternatives.

 

[Magpie]

Your forgetting that time there was some sort of horse flu or something like that and it was also in jeopardy over that :eagerness:

Foot and Mouth, last time I had an account with them, as they would not give AP money back on AP at time, before they rethought, I’ve had a 20
year grudge against them!

 

[Dandrew99]

First 3 non-handicaps all given a fairly major shakeup in about 6 hours, wow :highly_amused:

Forgot about the bloody beast from the east too...

Now maybe Lossiemouth too... 4 of the first 5 favourites in a day.

Someone wrap The Goffer up in cotton wool ffs

 

[Quevega]

Mullins six timer on the Monday, making it 100 Cheltenham winners and Patrick riding the winner in Willie's mums name. ??
Might have 7 favourites.

 

[DonnyBoy]

Mullins six timer on the Monday, making it 100 Cheltenham winners and Patrick riding the winner in Willie's mums name. ??
Might have 7 favourites.

I make that that an absolute minus zero chance of happening,.not even a miracle could make that happen.

 

[Quevega]

I make that that an absolute minus zero chance of happening,.not even a miracle could make that happen.

Had to read that a few times :highly_amused::loyal:
Think I get your point though.
Think it's about 1000-1

 

[DonnyBoy]

Had to read that a few times :highly_amused::loyal:
Think I get your point though.
Think it's about 1000-1

I knew you would before i even pressed reply

 

[DonnyBoy]

Given the sporting parallels with 2020 already this year, a repeat of the same Superbowl teams and winning side, a Hendo superstar will he wont he run saga which ended in the latter option, Leeds United getting promoted to the Premier League, they just will.. to name a few.
I'd expect Gordon Elliot to have a very good festival. More winners than Mullins. But given we had a Lisnagar Oscar win that year, the Fortune is a cert... Definitely worth considering any winners from that year running again, winning this year...Sire Du Berlais, Saint Roi, Envoi Allen and Shishkin most likely.
There's more to this stuff than mere coincidence i'm certain so Nicky will get his win in the Supreme and Henry takes the Arkle, Chianti Classico takes the Ultima as Kim Bailey had a day 1 winner that year.
So Salvador Ziggy with the Nh Chase, its just written.. like it's already been run. Or maybe i'm just a conspiracy theorist or worse a loony. Its all there to see if you dig..forget cold hard form. Good luck to all.[/QUOTE
Not to mention Liverpool winning the Prem in 2020 , top of the table now. Could get decent odds on Bayern Munich winning the CL Final. but maybe Harry Kane really is just a Jonah of proportions even out of the reach of the Matrix to overcome. Its clearly not scientifc i wouldn't even pretend anything like but i think its interesting if nothing else.

 

[Silverbirch]

Because of all this bullshit with ballyburn. Not only is boring as hell, it'll be costing the punter a fortune on exchanges alone.

Is it time to ditch the Ballymore/Baring Bingham race?

It seems now days (barring the odd specialist novice) that its universally thought horses can easily switch between the supreme and the BB. Does that extra 4f make that much of a difference to a novice hurdler?

So let's ditch the Ballymore and then we have a much clearly picture of a plodder or a sprinter. Surely the choice between 2m and 3m is not so easy.

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[Deleted member 4957]

Is it time to ditch the Ballymore/Baring Bingham race?

They've both been going over 50 years, they're very much established races, novices have always been able to switch and plenty have over the years....

 

[Quevega]

Because of all this bullshit with ballyburn. Not only is boring as hell, it'll be costing the punter a fortune on exchanges alone.

Is it time to ditch the Ballymore/Baring Bingham race?

It seems now days (barring the odd specialist novice) that its universally thought horses can easily switch between the supreme and the BB. Does that extra 4f make that much of a difference to a novice hurdler?

So let's ditch the Ballymore and then we have a much clearly picture of a plodder or a sprinter. Surely the choice between 2m and 3m is not so easy.

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Totally agree, make that and the Turners both Novice handicaps instead and ban all other novices from the other handicaps.
Plus NH chase scrapped and tuned into the Mags Mullins veterans chase.
And fuck the mares races off till early February.

Much better product with those changes, but they won't cos people cling on to tradition. :highly_amused: Like Ista !

 

[JackieMoon33]

Because of all this bullshit with ballyburn. Not only is boring as hell, it'll be costing the punter a fortune on exchanges alone.

Is it time to ditch the Ballymore/Baring Bingham race?

It seems now days (barring the odd specialist novice) that its universally thought horses can easily switch between the supreme and the BB. Does that extra 4f make that much of a difference to a novice hurdler?

So let's ditch the Ballymore and then we have a much clearly picture of a plodder or a sprinter. Surely the choice between 2m and 3m is not so easy.

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They should reduce the novice races to two and run them over 2m2f and 2m6f. Alongside this ban all first season novices from handicap hurdles and chases, regardless of number of runs.

 

[Deleted member 4957]

Much better product with those changes, but they won't cos people cling on to tradition. :highly_amused: Like Ista !

Haha.
To be fair I get the sentiment Silverbirch was getting at and I agree the diluted festival creates these dilemmas every year, just not sure the Supreme and Baring Bingham is the right analogy.
He is right it gets boring..............unless you're the right side of the market of course....

 

[Silverbirch]

Sorted then - make the Baring Bingham a handicap.

Like let's be honest, it's all a game of chess with trainers and owners trying the pick the easiest race to win. 10% of it is about the actual distance making a difference.

Don't get me wrong, it's all part of the fun, but surely this is all getting a bit ridiculous? Pick a fucking race and let us decide who wins.

 

[Birds Nest]

Just some point pinching on sky nrnb win any race

Saint roi 8-1 sky a/r best price 7-1
King of kingsfield 8-1 " " best price 7-1
inowhaturthinkin 5-1 best price 4-1
crebily 5-1 best price 4-1
brightrrdaysahead 15-8 best price 13/8

And just b4 thurs supp for the rsa
American mike 7-1 ar sky

 

[TigerRolllllll]

Just some point pinching on sky nrnb win any race

Saint roi 8-1 sky a/r best price 7-1
King of kingsfield 8-1 " " best price 7-1
inowhaturthinkin 5-1 best price 4-1
crebily 5-1 best price 4-1
brightrrdaysahead 15-8 best price 13/8

And just b4 thurs supp for the rsa
American mike 7-1 ar sky

Aren’t these type bets bit of an account risk?

 

[Birds Nest]

Aren’t these type bets bit of an account risk?

it wont show up as its only a point, you cant arb them when its that skinny..