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Neptune Novices Hurdle 2017

:encouragement: Not quoted for the 'boys race' yet so we'll have to watch the space...



Saturnas 20/1 NRNB ?!
 
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Kev - Id rather have Lets Dance NRNB & if you're feeling brave take the 16s without NRNB as I reckon it runs on this - I know there's a health warning needed here - as second guessing Mullins/Ricci usually leaves you poor - but I reckon they'll run VVM in the mares - leave the novice mates to Airlie Beach, Kemboy in Spud race so has to run here - it's the right trip.
 
Any word on Invitation Only? Exchanges were not looking positive for either he or Crack Mome in the Neptune and Supreme respectively
 
Saturnas looks a solid bet whichever race he takes in @20/1 NRNB
Im expecting a massive run in the Deloitte this weekend. As soon as he won his last race WM said he would put him up to 2.2m with a view to 2.5m at cheltenham. Ive taken a price for the supreme as well because Deloitte winners often go to the supreme.
 
Al Ferof said:
Any word on Invitation Only? Exchanges were not looking positive for either he or Crack Mome in the Neptune and Supreme respectively
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IO is entered in the Deloite on Sunday.. so i guess we'll know more after this provided he runs. Not really sure what to make of it if he doesnt run. He drifted to 14s after the Death Duty race and inst an awful lot higher now. I'd still remain hopeful but would like to see him run again before Cheltenham. That said, if ground is key then maybe its not such a bad thing if he doesnt run as we can put reasoning to the defeat behind Death Duty.. which all things considered isnt exactly bad form.
 
doctorwu said:
Saturnas looks a solid bet whichever race he takes in @20/1 NRNB
Im expecting a massive run in the Deloitte this weekend. As soon as he won his last race WM said he would put him up to 2.2m with a view to 2.5m at cheltenham. Ive taken a price for the supreme as well because Deloitte winners often go to the supreme.
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FYI DW - I've backed all Wicklow Bloodstock horses blind when entered in the last 3 seasons and can't complain about the results...

Arctic Fire 14/1 - 2nd in County Hurdle 2014
Arctic Fire 33/1 - 2nd in CH 2015
Wicklow Brave 33/1 - 1st in County 2015
No runners in 2016
 
Got Saturnas in a few of my L.15's, only in the neptune though,
Also Like m.des obeaux, Didn,t watch today, so i hope it wasn't That bad!.
 
loveracing said:
FYI DW - I've backed all Wicklow Bloodstock horses blind when entered in the last 3 seasons and can't complain about the results...

Arctic Fire 14/1 - 2nd in County Hurdle 2014
Arctic Fire 33/1 - 2nd in CH 2015
Wicklow Brave 33/1 - 1st in County 2015
No runners in 2016
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I do like these angles - good spot :encouragement:
 
Guarantee MDO would be running in the Albert Bartlett if it wasn't for Wholestone.

Challow Hurdlers have a terrible record in this race much like Feltham winners have a shocking record in the RSA because you need a speed horse to win one and a stayer to win the other.
 
If Might Bite wins the RSA will you still hold that view? (Wrong thread I know)

MDO was workmanlike time before this and probably isn't good enough in a normal year ... would have needed to make a big step forward today and didn't. Not good enough to win any race at any festival imo this year.

I'm still reeling from Robin Roe.
 
Kevloaf said:
If Might Bite wins the RSA will you still hold that view? (Wrong thread I know)

MDO was workmanlike time before this and probably isn't good enough in a normal year ... would have needed to make a big step forward today and didn't. Not good enough to win any race at any festival imo this year.

I'm still reeling from Robin Roe.
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Well knowing that and how much pace he showed in the Feltham, do you think he can win an RSA?

His stand out performance as a hurdler and a chaser came at Kempton Park.
 
Mytentoryours1 said:
Well knowing that and how much pace he showed in the Feltham, do you think he can win an RSA?

His stand out performance as a hurdler and a chaser came at Kempton Park.
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I think he can win yeh. Coneygree had enough pace to win a Feltham and wona Gold Cup. I was just asking IF Might Bite won, would you start to change your opinion on the Feltham as a race that could throw up an RSA winner?
 
Kevloaf said:
I think he can win yeh. Coneygree had enough pace to win a Feltham and wona Gold Cup. I was just asking IF Might Bite won, would you start to change your opinion on the Feltham as a race that could throw up an RSA winner?
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Coneygree's test was the Feltham because it is a speed favouring track. He was always going to come into his own at Cheltenham being the strong stayer he is.

No I won't be changing my opinion on that stat. Some stats are totally meaningless but this one makes sense. See the raft of quality horses that have won a Feltham but then not followed up in the RSA.
 
Mytentoryours1 said:
Coneygree's test was the Feltham because it is a speed favouring track. He was always going to come into his own at Cheltenham being the strong stayer he is.

No I won't be changing my opinion on that stat. Some stats are totally meaningless but this one makes sense. See the raft of quality horses that have won a Feltham but then not followed up in the RSA.
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Coneygree faced a bigger test in the Feltham than the Gold Cup? I can understand you think he is more suited to Cheltenham than Kempton, but it would be crazy to say the Feltham was more of a test?

I think you'd be mental to rule out Might Bite because Coneygree ran in the Gold Cup rather than the Feltham. If Coneygree had ran in the Feltham, he would have won it (I assume we can agree on that) so as a stat it seems flawed? I am not saying it shouldn't be looked at, or that Might Bite is anywhere near as good as Coneygree ... I suppose when the Feltham moves the stat will become irrelevant anyway, so good luck with it for the next few years :highly_amused::devilish:
 
Kevloaf said:
Coneygree faced a bigger test in the Feltham than the Gold Cup? I can understand you think he is more suited to Cheltenham than Kempton, but it would be crazy to say the Feltham was more of a test?

I think you'd be mental to rule out Might Bite because Coneygree ran in the Gold Cup rather than the Feltham. If Coneygree had ran in the Feltham, he would have won it (I assume we can agree on that) so as a stat it seems flawed? I am not saying it shouldn't be looked at, or that Might Bite is anywhere near as good as Coneygree ... I suppose when the Feltham moves the stat will become irrelevant anyway, so good luck with it for the next few years :highly_amused::devilish:
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I made no reference to the quality of opposition. The point I was making was Coneygree was always going to be more suited to Cheltenham than Kempton so he did really well to win the Feltham (and win it by a mile). I think you were getting mixed up with your previous point (he won the Feltham/didn't run in the RSA). I didn't rule Might Bite out, my point is he is a far more unlikely winner than his odds suggest.

What is his Cheltenham record compared with his Kempton record?
 
I think we can all agree Might Bite looks a complete different animal over 3m + fences.
 
Mytentoryours1 said:
I didn't rule Might Bite out, my point is he is a far more unlikely winner than his odds suggest.

What is his Cheltenham record compared with his Kempton record?
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Fair enough. I don't disagree with that :encouragement: better get back to the Neptune :highly_amused:
 
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