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Am I the only one who doesn't like any of the mullins 3

Lossiemouth, gala and ashroe

All hard pullers

All doubtful to get up the hill over 2m4f for me

Gala won over 2m3 1/2f on heavy ground on her last start last season and the horse in 2nd that day has since won a G3 & G1. I don't think she pulls all that hard tbh.
 
I did say on the line below about her RB run....?..as i consider that a decent run, the Leop one i'd say again fairly inconclusive.

I'd mostly agree with you about the inconclusiveness of the xmas run but would remind you that she's unbeaten against mares
I like her, and i was leaning towards love envoi but after sunday i'm thinking this mare is a big contender
 
I'd mostly agree with you about the inconclusiveness of the xmas run but would remind you that she's unbeaten against mares
I like her, and i was leaning towards love envoi but after sunday i'm thinking this mare is a big contender

I’m actually not questioning her as a mare just how much she should be upped being beaten how she was on Sunday. Personally I didn’t think much at all, 2pd is fine.
 
surely honeysuckle in last years race would have something to do with that?
2 time reigning champion hurdler? he beat her for the first time.....
surely thats better than beating another sir gerhard

Yes. They have a job to do and they have processes to follow. They do not have the luxury of obeying their instincts or gut feelings. Punters, jockeys , trainers etc do.

My immediate feeling was that Teahupoo had improved. I am convinced the trainer believes he has and on this occasion i don’t much care about the maths involved of beating honey versus iep. On this occasion i am trusting what my instincts are telling me rightly or wrongly.

I totally get why others see the logic in the ratings and I totally get why others instinctively believe he hasn’t improved as well.

it’s why gambling for me is a glorious blend of art and science. Sometimes i favour one sometimes the other and on rare occasions they are perfectly aligned
 
Am I the only one who doesn't like any of the mullins 3

Lossiemouth, gala and ashroe

All hard pullers

All doubtful to get up the hill over 2m4f for me

I've already got Lossie covered for the race but...yes I agree,all need to race with a lot less enthusiasm to get home,but she is classy hence covering her for the mares anyway.
 
Another quote from Willie I've found directly after the Triumph.....


“People are starting to think of her as a Champion Hurdler,” Mullins said. “Constitituon Hill will be hard to beat but she [Lossiemouth] will only be five next year. We might go for the Mares’ Hurdle but not many five-year-old mares go in the Champion Hurdle and if we can claim seven pounds, you never know.”

If IEP disappoints again next time perhaps they will throw her at the big one those season.
 
Did Spectre not say something re. going 2m4 this season with her in one of his podcasts he did? Was that his opinion or heard something?
 
Did Spectre not say something re. going 2m4 this season with her in one of his podcasts he did? Was that his opinion or heard something?

He was very cool on her going Mares Hurdle in his podcast yes. Not sure if he had heard anything.
 
Work this out for me, she was beaten 13Ls and got the 7lbs.....She's 140 and Teahupoo is 160

Hasn't she ran around her mark really?

jack1092, I did start off my original post with 'Compared to Teahupoo and IEP she probably ran to her rating or possibly slightly better given that she seemed to be eased after the last, so might get raised slightly from 140?', so the view of how AD's rating might change would definitely be influenced by how you interpreted the runs of the two ahead and the two behind.

It's all good discussion, but should probably move off the General Chat - do we have a Mares Hurdle thread yet?
 
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Oh wow, hadn't seen that (given I missed the majority of the flat season)

Very interesting - has it been mentioned which yards he's likely to link up with?


My gut is that a top class flat jockey would be able to make this switch!
 
There were rumours he was going to ride in this year's Bumper.
 
Oh wow, hadn't seen that (given I missed the majority of the flat season)

Very interesting - has it been mentioned which yards he's likely to link up with?


My gut is that a top class flat jockey would be able to make this switch!

I have seen a few interviews where he has said he intends to ride over hurdles in the winter. As we know many jocks have played around with bumpers but this was different. I can’t recall him mentioning specific yards but he seemed like his mind was firmly made up.

The guy is absolute class on a horse. What I love about him is the way he responds when he doesn’t feel he has given a horse the best ride. Backing him on that same horse next time i suspect would be very profitable. He studies, then he studies and then he studies some more.

Interestingly his uncle is Jim Culloty and he is good friends with recently retired Denis O’Regan so you’d imagine that could open a few doors if he looks okay on Thursday (weather permitting).
 
Was looking at the horses I've backed for next March and was surprised how few current favourites I've actually got on board....just 4. This prompted me to look at the number of favourites (Non Handicaps) at this time last year that went on to win at the festival and I counted just 6. I've not gone back further years but that figure did make me feel better.
 
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Was looking at the horses I've backed for next March and was surprised how few current favourites I've actually got on board....just 4. This prompted me to look at the number of favourites (Non Handicaps) at this time last year that went on to win at the festival and I counted just 6. I've not gone back further years but that figure did make me feel better.

I dont know the answer, but how many where priced up or came on the scene yet this time last year?