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2017 RSA Chase

ryanh97 said:
Ive been struggling to find a winner for this race. I like Might Bite but it all comes down to how he comes back from the fall. Looking at the rest I fancy Coney Island. He looked very good in the Drinmore when he beat Anibale Fly and jumped great in when he lost to Our Duke. He's shown he can handle a fight and I love that trait in a horse. Looked good on the ground last spring, looks an overall good bet at around 12/1. Anyone else share this view?
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I get the feeling this Might Bite is a bit of a flat track bully,alebit a very good one. That performance at Kempton almost looked a little too good to be true for me. I think it can replicate it , but i just get the feeling it will need a similar flat track to do that.
If you look at his Cheltenham form I would say its modest at best.The win there maybe murkies the waters a little bit for me, it won a small field with little opposition. Its other two runs at the track were nothing special, including when I backed it for the hurdle race off top weight when finishing midfield.
I might be barking up the wrong tree with this fella, but I just suspect it will not be able to repeat that performance from Kempton here at Cheltenham. I'd be tempted to wait for Aintree and maybe Punchestown if I owned/trained it.
 
I'm hoping Might Bite comes back without any issues from that fall. His only start over 3m looked as though he was going to romp home, his next furthest start (2m 5f, again at Kempton) resulted in victory too. I think the further he goes the better.

Was looking through his Cheltenham form, his first novice chase race resulted him to being reverted back to hurdles for that season, but what interests me was the opposition he faced on his Chase debut, More Of That, As De Mee, Dell' Arca, Double Shuffle, and even had Ballyalton further behind, a horse that subsequently went on to win at the festival that season in the listed HC Chase on the opening day.

His 2 losses this season have excuses, the obvious one being the fall at Kempton when well clear, and his seasonal debut for me was firstly too short a distance and secondly he sprawled (kinda) on landing at the last, although was likely to be outpaced anyway at the finish.

The other horse I like, and many slate his Cheltenham form, is Bellshill, more obvious than most, as favourite, but I do believe he needs 3m+ and this will suit him down to the ground, has the beating of Coney Island over 3m hurdles and suspect will be beating that horse further over fences.
 
RSA Novices’ Chase
Grade One, £175,000 Total Prize Fund, Cheltenham, 2.10pm, Wednesday, March 15, 2017. Three miles and half a furlong (3m 80y).
For novice 5-y-o+ rated 120 & more. Horses who are not qualified for a rating in Great Britain, Ireland or France may also be entered.
Such horses may be eligible providing the Handicapper is satisfied that the horse’s racecourse performances up to and including March 8
would merit a minimum rating of 120. Weights: 5-y-o 11st 2lb; 6-y-o+ 11st 4lb. Allowances: mares 7lb. Entries closed January 24, entries
revealed January 26 (55 entries), scratchings’ deadline February 21, six-day confirmation & £8,500 supplementary stage March 9, final
declaration stage 10.00am, March 14.
Horse Age Owner Trainer
A GENIE IN ABOTTLE (IRE) 6 Gigginstown House Stud Noel Meade IRE
A TOI PHIL (FR) 7 Gigginstown House Stud Gordon Elliott IRE
ACAPELLA BOURGEOIS (FR) 7 Slaneyville Syndicate Sandra Hughes IRE
ALL HELL LET LOOSE (IRE) 8 Gigginstown House Stud Henry de Bromhead IRE
ALPHA DES OBEAUX (FR) 7 Gigginstown House Stud Mouse Morris IRE
AMERICAN (FR) 7 The Jago Family Partnership Harry Fry
AMORE ALATO 8 Sarah Faulks Johnny Farrelly
ARBRE DE VIE (FR) 7 Susannah Ricci Willie Mullins IRE
AS DE MEE (FR) 7 The Stewart Family & Judi Dench Paul Nicholls
AURILLAC (FR) 7 D Mossop, P John & R White Rebecca Curtis
AUX PTITS SOINS (FR) 7 John Hales Paul Nicholls
BALKO DES FLOS (FR) 6 Gigginstown House Stud Henry de Bromhead IRE
BELAMI DES PICTONS (FR) 6 Hills of Ledbury (Aga) Venetia Williams
BELLOW MOME (FR) 6 Audrey Turley Willie Mullins IRE
BELLSHILL (IRE) 7 Andrea & Graham Wylie Willie Mullins IRE
BIGBADJOHN (IRE) 8 Nigel Morris Rebecca Curtis
BLEU ET ROUGE (FR) 6 J P McManus Willie Mullins IRE
BRIAR HILL (IRE) 9 Andrea & Graham Wylie Willie Mullins IRE
BRIERY BELLE 8 Mrs H Plumbly J Trafford K Deane S Holme Henry Daly
CALETT MAD (FR) 5 Simon Munir & Isaac Souede Nigel Twiston-Davies
CHAMPERS ON ICE (IRE) 7 Professor Caroline Tisdall & Bryan Drew David Pipe
CHIC NAME (FR) 5 Hinchy, Davies & Lynch-Smith Richard Hobson
CHILDRENS LIST (IRE) 7 Susannah Ricci Willie Mullins IRE
CONEY ISLAND (IRE) 6 J P McManus Eddie Harty IRE
DARK FLAME (IRE) 8 The Encore Partnership III Richard Rowe
DELUSIONOFGRANDEUR (IRE) 7 McGoldrick Racing 3 Sue Smith
DISKO (FR) 6 Gigginstown House Stud Noel Meade IRE
EDWULF 8 J P McManus Joseph O'Brien IRE
EMERGING FORCE (IRE) 7 Webb Holt Carpenter Tucker Harry Whittington
FLINTHAM 8 The Rasher Partnership Mark Bradstock
GANGSTER (FR) 7 Gigginstown House Stud Henry de Bromhead IRE
GENERAL PRINCIPLE (IRE) 8 Gigginstown House Stud Gordon Elliott IRE
HAYMOUNT (IRE) 8 Mrs C M Hurley Willie Mullins IRE
HERON HEIGHTS (IRE) 8 Barry Maloney Henry de Bromhead IRE
IBIS DU RHEU (FR) 6 John Hales Paul Nicholls
ITS'AFREEBEE (IRE) 7 Rebel Jumping Dan Skelton
LABEL DES OBEAUX (FR) 6 David Sewell & Terry Warner Alan King
MARINERO (IRE) 8 Gigginstown House Stud Henry de Bromhead IRE
MARTELLO TOWER (IRE) 9 Barry Connell Margaret Mullins IRE
MIGHT BITE (IRE) 8 The Knot Again Partnership Nicky Henderson
NAMBOUR (GER) 7 Gigginstown House Stud Mouse Morris IRE
O O SEVEN (IRE) 7 Triermore Stud Nicky Henderson
OUR KAEMPFER (IRE) 8 Swanee River Partnership Charlie Longsdon
PRINCE OF SCARS (IRE) 7 Gigginstown House Stud Gordon Elliott IRE
ROAD TO RESPECT (IRE) 6 Gigginstown House Stud Noel Meade IRE
ROBINSFIRTH (IRE) 8 Christine Knowles & Wendy Carter Colin Tizzard
ROCK THE KASBAH (IRE) 7 Diana Whateley Philip Hobbs
ROYAL VACATION (IRE) 7 Jean Bishop Colin Tizzard
SHANTOU VILLAGE (IRE) 7 Jane Gerard-Pearse Neil Mulholland
SINGLEFARMPAYMENT 7 N T Griffith & H M Haddock Tom George
THEO'S CHARM (IRE) 7 Michael O'Shea Nick Gifford
TIGER ROLL (IRE) 7 Gigginstown House Stud Gordon Elliott IRE
UNCLE DANNY (IRE) 8 LWL Partnership John Queally IRE
VINTAGE CLOUDS (IRE) 7 Trevor Hemmings Sue Smith
WHISPER (FR) 9 Walters Plant Hire Ltd Nicky Henderson
55 entries
26 Irish-trained
 
at 16/1 ADO has to be the value. This race is falling in on itself. Mouse will have him trained for the day. Got him plenty of experience early in the season and has time to get him right before the festival.
 
Totally agree KSS. This horse is made for fences and he was strongly fancied in the Stayers last season - heavily punted and running a brilliant race to finish second. I'm sure his price will get nibbled at as the festival approaches.
 
Faugheen_Machine said:
Totally agree KSS. This horse is made for fences and he was strongly fancied in the Stayers last season - heavily punted and running a brilliant race to finish second. I'm sure his price will get nibbled at as the festival approaches.
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I think we've all mentioned that at some point over the year. The 'Mouse-factor' is going to be a huge factor and I won't be surprised at all to see him in some ante post tipping columns over the next 6/7 weeks.

I have taken shorter prices than he has been twice but always in a double... I don't have a single on at the moment, so with any money returned tomorrow I will have a bet on ADO each way. I don't think the RSA market will change much tomorrow so no great rush tonight.
 
I grabbed 14s early on last season for the Stayers but got on Thistlecrack later on so was nice to have the 1-2. I havent followed him as much this year but I think that might end up changing
 
ADO is my biggest AP bet. Had a scare with his bleeding at Leopardstown but connections seem bullish it was a one off. Have bet him at 20s, 16s, and 12s and in a couple of doubles - amazed you can still get him at decent prices especially given the field is getting weaker by the day.
 
Think im gonna have to get on him of I have a winner tomorrow. Welcome GS mate
 
Welcome GS.

ADO a big winner on the board ...love the way Mouse lays them out for the fez.
 
darlojim said:
any more news on Might Bite yet??
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Hi Nicky, MIGHT BITE looked sensational last time until falling, have you ironed out his jumping and will he handle Cheltenham?
Things are going well again! He’s just been around the indoor school and you won’t see anything jump as well as him in your life. He hasn’t seen a steeple chase fence since Kempton but he’s done plenty inside and we’re just trying to keep him happy and give him confidence to do his own thing and he has been very good. The acid test will be when he has to jump a proper fence again. He was quite sore after his fall so we had to tinker with him for a fortnight or so but he’s over all that now and I just need to get a run into him as I’d hate to go into the RSA off the back of that fall. Who knows, me might even leave Cheltenham out of it this year, I don’t know. It’s been frustrating lately because we can’t school on the grass because of the frost but it’s set to be better next week so we should be able to get him going and we’ll step his work up too. He looks good and is moving well so will hopefully get his career back on track before long.
 
Good update on Might Bite. I'd be watching very closely next time out then. I do love the potential on an animal that "if it all goes right on the day" could be different class and I believe that true of Might Bite. That Kempton performance has me very excited indeed. I quite like the time angle in comparison to the King George (and Thistlecrack).... I believe Thistlecrack is an exceptional horse, therefore elevating Might Bite, rather than crabbing Thistlecrack because of the Might Bite time.... I may be wrong, but I prefer it my way!



16s on ADO when Might Bite may not turn up, is 16/1 about a Gigginstown no 1 in the RSA, ... same price to get top 3 as the fav is to win. This is a horse with an incredible engine and to steal my own line from above, "if it all goes right on the day" I can't have Bellshill ahead of him! Plenty of other horses that are being minded for the future that would be of interest too that may one day be better, but this could be a very impressive winner on day 2
 
Boost for Might Bite with Royal Vacation winning off 143 by a long way....?
 
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