2023 Martin Pipe Handicap Hurdle

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*Please note race conditions taken from 2022*

TO CLOSE BY NOON ON FEBRUARY 21st


CHELTENHAM
Friday, March 17th

Martin Pipe Conditional Jockeys Handicap Hurdle (Class 2)
TOTAL RACE VALUE GBP 75,000

Distributed in accordance with Stakes and Prize Money Code
GBP 44,475 to the winning horse
The second to receive GBP 13,965
the third GBP 6,983,
the fourth GBP 3,488,
the fifth GBP 1,747,
the sixth GBP 878,
the seventh GBP 442 and
the eighth GBP 210

for four yrs old and upwards
(Weight Range 0-145)

TWO MILES ABOUT FOUR FURLONG (2m 4f 56y)

Enter by noon, February 21st and pay GBP 90 stake
Confirm by noon, March 11th and pay GBP 260
Declare by 10.00 a.m. March 15th

Weights publish on February 28th
Penalties, after February 26th 2023, a winner of a hurdle race 5lb
(No penalty to increase a horse’s weight above 11st 12lb)

PLEASE NOTE: A novice or juvenile horse shall only be qualified to run in this race if it has run a minimum of FOUR times in Hurdles in Great Britain, Ireland or France in accordance with paragraph 15 of the Weights and Handicapping Code

2021 1st OR 137, 2nd OR 136, 3rd OR 143, 4th OR 135. High OR 144, Lowest OR 132
2021 1st OR 142, 2nd OR 135, 3rd OR 143, 4th OR 136. High OR 143, Lowest OR 132
2020 1st OR 145, 2nd OR 138, 3rd OR 136, 4th OR 137. High OR 145. Lowest OR 136
2019 1st OR 145, 2nd OR 140, 3rd OR 139, 4th OR 126. High OR 145 Lowest OR 126
2018 1st OR 144, 2nd OR 136, 3rd OR 142, 4th OR 144. High OR 144 Lowest OR 136
2017 1st OR 138, 2nd OR 135, 3rd OR 140, 4th OR 138. High OR 145 Lowest OR 135
2016 1st OR 139, 2nd OR 138, 3rd OR 135, 4th OR 140. High OR 142 Lowest OR 135
2015 1st OR 135, 2nd OR 140, 3rd OR 139, 4th OR 135. High OR 144 Lowest OR 135
2014 1st OR 143, 2nd OR 134, 3rd OR 143, 4th OR 135. High OR 146 Lowest OR 133
2013 1st OR 143, 2nd OR 133, 3rd OR 139, 4th OR 135. High OR 145 Lowest OR 131​
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[Kevloaf]

Column of Fire wins all

 

[Dandrew99]

Landrake wins all
(Form boosted again by Good Land this weekend)

 

[gwaaan]

What’s Gordon got for this? I’m hoping my Favori De Champdou Albert Bartlett ticket is still the most likely option for him

 

[Eggs]

…..I reckon Spanish Harlem going the GDC route.

 

[Dandrew99]

What’s Gordon got for this? I’m hoping my Favori De Champdou Albert Bartlett ticket is still the most likely option for him

...Landrake :highly_amused:

Music Drive too. Both running Tuesday.

 

[Kevloaf]

What’s Gordon got for this? I’m hoping my Favori De Champdou Albert Bartlett ticket is still the most likely option for him

After today's run..... Irish Point?

 

[Dandrew99]

After today's run..... Irish Point?

He'd likely be over 145 surely?

 

[Kevloaf]

He'd likely be over 145 surely?

143 today.... ran terrible? If he went down .....

Then with tax .....

145?



I'd be absolutely smashing him up for this :glee:

 

[Stormez]

Would like to see Dawn Rising go here, has JOB given any hint of plans?

 

[Outlaw]

143 today.... ran terrible? If he went down .....

Then with tax .....

145?



I'd be absolutely smashing him up for this :glee:

Ridden cold today wasn't he, still chances of our lot given a novice with two 2nds in G1s a 145< will be slim to none. Be 146 and two fingers up for trying :biggrin-new:

 

[Dandrew99]

143 today.... ran terrible? If he went down .....

Then with tax .....

145?



I'd be absolutely smashing him up for this :glee:

Don't think the British handicapper will be that generous myself :highly_amused: Would certainly be of interest if he did get in. At a guess, 147.

Plus Gordon has this race by the balls in Landrake so why bother? (Yes I'm going to break the record for number of times mentioned)

 

[Kevloaf]

Ridden cold today wasn't he, still chances of our lot given a novice with two 2nds in G1s a 145< will be slim to none. Be 146 and two fingers up for trying :biggrin-new:

Then all in for the Coral Cup / County Hurdle :indecisiveness:


The more I think about it, the more I'll get giddy about him in a handicap.

 

[Kevloaf]

Don't think the British handicapper will be that generous myself :highly_amused: Would certainly be of interest if he did get in. At a guess, 147.

Plus Gordon has this race by the balls in Landrake so why bother? (Yes I'm going to break the record for number of times mentioned)

Talk me through the Landrake case then....

 

[Outlaw]

Then all in for the Coral Cup / County Hurdle :indecisiveness:


The more I think about it, the more I'll get giddy about him in a handicap.

All in, you think he's at least low 150s then I take it?

I don't think this years novices have been particularly strong so even thou he has form amongst the leading protagonists I'm not sure id be too interested in him myself for all I can see why people would with the graded form.

 

[Speedy17]

Cool Survivor? Good 4th in the Nathaniel Lacy. Connections have targeted this many times, owner & trainer. Had a rating of 136 before yesterday.

 

[Kevloaf]

All in, you think he's at least low 150s then I take it?

I don't think this years novices have been particularly strong so even thou he has form amongst the leading protagonists I'm not sure id be too interested in him myself for all I can see why people would with the graded form.

I'd definitely fancy him yeah.... just the blanket novices record enough to give a different angle and without hindsight we can never know....

Solid novice graded form dropping into handicaps I prefer than unexposed tree-beating ... and just having that versus 'exposed' horses I like as an angle, so I know I'd get giddy.


Won't always work out but the horses he got close to, may be way better than we realise... so that's the angle for me.

 

[Dandrew99]

Talk me through the Landrake case then....

You mean you don't read my diary? I'm hurt :sorrow: From 20th Jan...

Couldn't resist my first bet in a handicap...

I've landed on Landrake (15.3/1) NRNB for the Martin Pipe before he runs tomorrow. Same race that Banbridge won last year, which will be his third run. He's also entered in the Column Of Fire/Dallas Des Pictons race which Gordon used as a Martin Pipe prep. Running back over 2 miles tomorrow where he clearly wants further.

Currently rated 135 in Ireland. Beaten in a bumper by Good Land who I thought won really well last time out and is second favourite for the Nathaniel Lacy, actually think he's excellent value for the Ballymore. Also third behind Facile Vega and narrowly beaten by Madmansgame in his other bumper runs. Next time out he beat Corbetts Cross (143) by a length (getting 3 pounds) who is now second favourite for the Albert Bartlett. Then in his last race he beat Dovlator by 6 lengths giving him 7 pounds, who himself was beaten by Salvador Ziggy (getting 11 pounds) who is now rated 145 and a single figure price for the Pertemps.

Basically everything I look about him makes me like him even more. Entered in the right races, right connections, looks to have at least half a stone in hand, running over a trip too short as a prep. Also got entered in the UK at the start of January so Gordon clearly has a handicap in mind for him.

Got a couple of others I've been hovering over but hopefully got some time before I have to do anything with them.

Edit: Just found he was also entered in a race planning race in November 2021 for the Martin Pipe... Got to be a long term plan this!

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Fell in the Banbridge race when clearly going the best (IMO). Entered on Tuesday which is the race that Gordon used for The Bosses Oscar on the way to the Martin Pipe. Since then obviously Good Land has franked the form massively (although in bumpers, pinch of salt but still good)

 

[Kevloaf]

Cool Survivor? Good 4th in the Nathaniel Lacy. Connections have targeted this many times, owner & trainer. Had a rating of 136 before yesterday.

Yeah, could be. Bookies too sharp with any potentials now aren't that, just checked his price.

 

[Dandrew99]

Come on Kevloaf I'm eagerly waiting for you to tear my argument to shreds :highly_amused: