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So there must be 10 races now then with the 3 additions !
 
E=Liammet;n400301]Clarence House now moved to 3 35 Saturday

Second last race with a handicap to finish [/QUOTE]

Where can I find the full card and times ?
 
I'll just turn up by 11 and take it from there :biggrin-new:
 
  • 11:40AM
    THE JCB TRIUMPH TRIAL JUVENILE HURDLE RACE (CLASS 1)(Grade 2) (Registered as the FINESSE) (GBB RACE) (CL 1)
    TWO MILES ABOUT ONE FURLONG (2m 179yds)
    4YO ?80,000.00
  • 12:10PM
    THE TIMEFORM NOVICES' HANDICAP STEEPLE CHASE (CLASS 2) (GBB RACE) (CL 2)
    TWO MILES ABOUT FOUR AND A HALF FURLONGS (2m 4f 127yds)
    5YO+ ?30,000.00
  • 12:40PM
    THE GLENFARCLAS CROSS COUNTRY HANDICAP STEEPLE CHASE (CLASS 2) (GBB RACE) (CL 2)
    THREE MILES ABOUT SIX FURLONGS (3m 6f 37yds)
    5YO+ ?35,000.00
  • 1:20PM
    THE ALBERT BARTLETT CLARENCE HOUSE STEEPLE CHASE (CLASS 1) (Grade 1) (GBB RACE) (CL 1)
    TWO MILES ABOUT HALF A FURLONG (2m 62yds)
    5YO+ ?90,000.00
  • 1:50PM
    THE PADDY POWER CHELTENHAM COUNTDOWN PODCAST HANDICAP STEEPLE CHASE (CLASS 1) (PREMIER HANDICAP) (GBB RACE) (CL 1)
    TWO MILES ABOUT FOUR AND A HALF FURLONGS (2m 4f 127yds)
    5YO+ ?100,000.00
  • 2:25PM
    THE PADDY POWER COTSWOLD STEEPLE CHASE (CLASS 1) (Grade 2) (GBB RACE) (CL 1)
    THREE MILES ABOUT ONE AND A HALF FURLONGS (3m 1f 56yds)
    5YO+ ?120,000.00
  • 3:00PM
    THE DAHLBURY STALLIONS AT CHAPEL STUD CLEEVE HURDLE RACE (CLASS 1) (Grade 2) (GBB RACE) (CL 1)
    about THREE MILES (2m 7f 213yds)
    5YO+ ?70,000.00
  • 3:35PM
    THE BALLYMORE NOVICES' HURDLE RACE (CLASS 1) (Registered as the CLASSIC Novices' Hurdle Race) (Grade 2) (GBB RACE) (CL 1)
    TWO MILES ABOUT FOUR AND A HALF FURLONGS (2m 4f 56yds)
    4YO+ ?50,000.00
  • 4:10PM
    THE SSS SUPER ALLOYS HANDICAP HURDLE RACE (CLASS 2) (GBB RACE) (CL 2)
    TWO MILES ABOUT ONE FURLONG (2m 179yds)
    4YO+ ?30,000.00
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Lingfield off today. A full week with no racing on turf in the UK. Really disappointing for Lingfield that winter million is a good idea.
 
From memory, this immediate post Christmas/New Year period has always been the most likely time for abandonments. Surely trainers, and owners, have to have this under consideration as they plan programmes for their horses. In reality though, we've had a week just pre Christmas and now a week in the middle of January . We've got through it lightly and hopefully that should be that for the really cold weather.
 
Irish Rugby said:
From memory, this immediate post Christmas/New Year period has always been the most likely time for abandonments. Surely trainers, and owners, have to have this under consideration as they plan programmes for their horses. In reality though, we've had a week just pre Christmas and now a week in the middle of January . We've got through it lightly and hopefully that should be that for the really cold weather.
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Yep. It's the time most trainers jab their horses as well so it's normally a quiet time for the quality animals.
 
Fair to say the Gordon Elliott yard are not exactly firing right now...

1 winner from 38 runners in the last fortnight. A strike rate of 3% - five beaten favourites during that spell, albeit Calico being the only odds on shot in that group.
 
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RoadToCheltenham said:
Fair to say the Gordon Elliott yard are not exactly firing right now...

1 winner from 38 runners in the last fortnight. A strike rate of 3% - five beaten favourites during that spell, albeit Calico being the only odds on shot in that group.
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Do you know why all the Bective Stud horses got pulled yesterday for Elliott?

Needs to find some form by the start of February for the DRF but Mullins usually blows him away there anyway.
 
DenmanSacre said:
Do you know why all the Bective Stud horses got pulled yesterday for Elliott?

Needs to find some form by the start of February for the DRF but Mullins usually blows him away there anyway.
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No idea. Saw Gavin Lynch put a tweet up about that but sure it got deleted - he didn't mention any reason why though...
 
On the race card for the It’s for Me race at Navan it said that My Trump Card was a NR due to a family bereavement.
 
DenmanSacre said:
Do you know why all the Bective Stud horses got pulled yesterday for Elliott?

Needs to find some form by the start of February for the DRF but Mullins usually blows him away there anyway.
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Death in the owners family

Noel Moran’s Mother
 
jrjr said:
I know a few have mentioned it in recent weeks but are there any plans for a return of the FJ podcast? Even a one-off would be good, maybe after the DRF when there is a clearer picture of how some of the races may pan out?

Kevloaf I suspect you may need to ring-lead..
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Hello,

There isn't anything planned in at the moment

Could do though, if jono and Spectre are free one evening the week after...

I've lost my phone so can't text them :chuncky:
 
Kevloaf said:
Hello,

There isn't anything planned in at the moment

Could do though, if jono and Spectre are free one evening the week after...

I've lost my phone so can't text them :chuncky:
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It'd be great if some could be planned. Appreciate it's you guys giving up your time, so entirely understand if not possible, but I found them so enjoyable last year. Really added to the build up. The ones on making a book this year were good too.
 
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Been having a think...

I'm pretty sure that next season I will be adopting a different strategy.
I'm not one for getting bets down too early, but can see the logic.
But I'm not going in that direction I reckon.
And my ante-post stakes are normally small compared to my day to day stuff. So this wouldn't suit.

So I think I may stick to mainly NRNB next year except maybe a select few, and wait until after Xmas.
I may utilise the win today markets if they offer any value. Think these are getting worse also.

The reason I think this is a good idea is that it seems obvious to me that the pool of antepost players has got larger, it's still small in comparison to the old days but it's larger than 5 years ago say.
You only have to see the amount of Podcasts to see this.

But what I think this has led to, is create some false prices and markets, much more so than normal. This is normally Ok as if we have false prices some will be wrong in a good way, but this is ante-post betting and not "day of" markets. Bookies are having our eyes, most of the time, and finding the value is harder.

For example, The last few Mullins horses to hose up have been over backed and simply do not represent a true reflection of the chances, but it seems there's enough Muggy betting going on to both encourage the bookmakers to string us along and push prices even lower. They've been backed like they've won graded races when they've won low grade uncompetitive maidens.

The lack of any get outs due to cash outs and low liquidity on exchange is also getting worse.

I basically think we're getting mugged off and mugging ourselves off, if you know what I mean.

Bit Like sitting around a Lake fishing and the Lake getting smaller whilst the number of fishermen are getting larger and simultaneously getting smarter, cos they have to, to compete to get the dwindling number of fish, but they've become more stupid at the same time cos they're still sat around the same fucking lake.

An example of what I mean by this is that to get the value nowadays you have to almost back horses before they run, not just after declarations. but also on entry, and often even before that. :stupid:
This hasn't always been the case, it's just crept in as the years have passed.

Even though I've spent shit loads of time on it and try to be selective and as shrewd as I can, I still get the feeling I'm pissing in the wind with antepost.

This is not because I'm not in a good position this season, cos I think I've got a very healthy position overall.
For my strategy anyway, which is more defensive than most, which means I'm trying not to lose more than trying to win big.

Basically, the excellent contributors like Saxon, eggs, native river and everyone else with the clever threads and ideas - and then the numerous podcasts with followers, have ruined it for me, :highly_amused::highly_amused::highly_amused:
They've simply made it easier for the lazy Mugs and FOMO merchants to identify likely bets.
And the bookies flashing lights have been on overdrive enticing similar types in.

I'll be looking very closely at the markets after decs and how they compare and this will make up my mind for sure.

However There is no answer except to go and fish elsewhere.:victorious:
:amen:
 
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