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For a horse so lightly race I can't see how they are going to squeeze another two runs in before the festival to get a mark for Grangeclare West. He has no current entries and 9 weeks to go.

Yeah looking at the program I don't really see where they could get there next run in without giving him a real hard race. Think there is a 2 and a half mile novice hurdle at Punchestown on the 30th this month, but they'd be lacking options mid to late Feb. What with his injury concerns the turn around is gonna be too tight.
 
I wouldnt be sure that david mullins is up to date on rule changes as he is not a trainer, he could have just forgotten that you need four runs to qualify for a handicap now.
 
Heading to OZ for a year or so in February. My GF is all panic about going and the only thing I am panicking about is not being able to bet for cheltenham. I know I can set an account up over there if needs be but I have plenty of funds in my betting account here.
just wanted to know what is the best way to go about betting over there with my Irish betting account. Will I be able to get a VPN installed on my phone to use the betting app? Sorry would not have much of a clue about VPNs and any suggestions to which VPN to use?

I lived in Sydney for 6 years and there's plenty of options over there OTB.

Nord VPN, Surfshark should let you get onto your accounts, but I've heard the bookies software is a bit sharper these days and some seem to see through it.

You can set up an account over there if you open a bank account over there. Sportingbet is probably your bet bet.

And if you're backing on the day, plenty of pubs have TAB outlets.

The racing is on Sky Racing over there too, so no problem watching.

You'll love it over there by the way. Where are you staying? Are you going for work, or just a year out?
 
I lived in Sydney for 6 years and there's plenty of options over there OTB.

Nord VPN, Surfshark should let you get onto your accounts, but I've heard the bookies software is a bit sharper these days and some seem to see through it.

You can set up an account over there if you open a bank account over there. Sportingbet is probably your bet bet.

And if you're backing on the day, plenty of pubs have TAB outlets.

The racing is on Sky Racing over there too, so no problem watching.

You'll love it over there by the way. Where are you staying? Are you going for work, or just a year out?

Great thanks Spectre for all this information.

Heading to the Gold Coast first and doing 3 weeks of travelling and that. Then going to Sydney to try get a job for a couple of months before we do more touring and would love to get to new zealand for 2 weeks or more. Only going over for a year as I have taking a years career break from work. If we don't go now we will never go.
 
Hills go 6/4 - biggest winning distance at the festival 20+ lengths.
I'd say that's more than fair, given the amount of short priced favourites and might be all over after race 1 if it's anything like the last 2 years.
 
Hills go 6/4 - biggest winning distance at the festival 20+ lengths.
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Yeah I agree, probably a decent play that.
They used to say distance betting was always about the ground and the amateurs, but that’s when competitive racing was guaranteed, you now get multiple races of 4/5/6 runners and there are mow more than two amateurs who can sit on a horse for more than 3 furlongs
That 6/4 looks OK.
That also suggests the par over/under line would be around 14.5 lengths, I’d love to be able to unload the lot on over 14.5…
 
Yeah I agree, probably a decent play that.
They used to say distance betting was always about the ground and the amateurs, but that’s when competitive racing was guaranteed, you now get multiple races of 4/5/6 runners and there are mow more than two amateurs who can sit on a horse for more than 3 furlongs
That 6/4 looks OK.
That also suggests the par over/under line would be around 14.5 lengths, I’d love to be able to unload the lot on over 14.5…

It's 5/2 120 lengths or more for the whole 28 races.
Being an over thinker, this was harder for me to process and I'd have to go through every race:rolleyes:, but on first look it also looked fair.
 
It's 5/2 120 lengths or more for the whole 28 races.
Being an over thinker, this was harder for me to process and I'd have to go through every race:rolleyes:, but on first look it also looked fair.

Back in the heyday of spread betting they used to quote this around 95-100 when it first went 28 races.
i remember a good ground year in the early stages of 4 days when it made up under 60 but I can’t remember how many races that would have been, but the uncompetitive nature of some races these days has contributed to bigger distances.
Not so sure about the total 120+ but I’d certainly
hit the 14.5 and 20+…
 
It's 5/2 120 lengths or more for the whole 28 races.
Being an over thinker, this was harder for me to process and I'd have to go through every race:rolleyes:, but on first look it also looked fair.

I left anything as head or neck as 0, this year was was 157.6. BUT almost a third of that was Bob Ollinger in the Turners
 
Feel a little bit for Jordan Gainford, but he'll have his chances.

Glad we get to see Davy ride, hopefully for one more festival, though :semi-twins:
 
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