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Cheltenham 2017 Antepost Bets

How about dynaste for the plate handicap.. Just something to keep an eye on over the winter ��
 
Supreme - Senewalk 10/1
Arkle - Altior 5/1
Cross Country - Josie's Orders 7/2

Really looking forward to Altior this season.
 
Vanilla said:
Arkle - Altior 5/1

Really looking forward to Altior this season.
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You're convinced he'll be chasing then ?
I'd back him for the champion hurdle on the basis that even if they decide to go chasing with the horse and setback could see him revert to timber, whereas if he starts over timber he will not transfer to birch mid season.
I can see the attraction in chasing at 6 but I'd love to see the horse win a champion then so chasing, the Supreme, Champion, Arkle, Queen Mother is a fair set to aim for....
 
One goes back to 1992 for Nicky Henderson's previous Supreme winner with Flown, the following season Flown went off the fav in the Champion Hurdle. So one would think that Altior will go down the Champion Hurdle route.
Altior was very impressive this year and certainly will be a lively contender in the Champion Hurdle.
Whether Altior will be a match for a fully fit Faugheen or Annie Power is open to debate.

As a national hunt fan, it is the jumping of fences that primarily appeals. If Altior does school well over fences I would hope we would see him take off on the route of Arkle - Champion Chase glory.

At this stage we still can dream.
 
Altior arkle, 1 more hampion chase campaign for Sprinter then Altior to take over as Hendos champion chaser the following season. How i would see it anyway.
 
Sprinter has relatively few miles on the clock so might still be the one to beat this year.

Light goes out pretty quick with 2 milers though.
 
Old Vic said:
Sprinter has relatively few miles on the clock so might still be the one to beat this year.

Light goes out pretty quick with 2 milers though.
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Could well be the case OV, I thought the division was quite weak this year, Dodging Bullets wasn't fit, UDS couldn't jump and now needs further, SDG got worse as the season went on, Special Tiara couldn't get his head in front all season.
The only improver was Gods Own but he needs rattling quick ground though could be a runner come March, and the novices looked a poor lot to me apart of course from Douvan and it's that one that looks to be the leading contender at this stage, though whether this actually ends up his target is always debatable....
 
Istabraq said:
Could well be the case OV, I thought the division was quite weak this year, Dodging Bullets wasn't fit, UDS couldn't jump and now needs further, SDG got worse as the season went on, Special Tiara couldn't get his head in front all season.
The only improver was Gods Own but he needs rattling quick ground though could be a runner come March, and the novices looked a poor lot to me apart of course from Douvan and it's that one that looks to be the leading contender at this stage, though whether this actually ends up his target is always debatable....
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Have we all given up on Vautour over 2 miles ?
 
I've backed Douvan for QM and also in the win any race market. Personally think he will go QM this time and then step up in trip season after. Vautour will go Ryanair again and Djakadam GC, all this based on no injuries. Champagne Fever maybe a forgotten horse and see what they do with him
 
Old Vic said:
Have we all given up on Vautour over 2 miles ?
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In March he was Gold Cup winner in waiting who was controversially re-routed to the Ryanair which he won in a canter, 2m can't be on his upcoming agenda.
I'll never say never because the Mullins/Ricci army run over distances to suit connections and not always what the horse needs, but I would have thought Douvan is their only Queen Mother horse...................................at this stage !
 
Old Vic said:
Have we all given up on Vautour over 2 miles ?
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I haven't given up on it OV, atrocious programme last season, Mullins camp got it completely wrong but still managed to get a grade one win out of him at the fez, then two quick runs after stating he was almost pulled out of the fez altogether. Complete rethink next season for me, and the 25/1 looks colossal, Douvan looks more of a stayer, in my view, than Vautour, a fully fit Vautour would give anything a huge task to overcome given the right prep over 2 miles
 
MrMcGoldrick said:
I haven't given up on it OV, atrocious programme last season, Mullins camp got it completely wrong but still managed to get a grade one win out of him at the fez, then two quick runs after stating he was almost pulled out of the fez altogether. Complete rethink next season for me, and the 25/1 looks colossal, Douvan looks more of a stayer, in my view, than Vautour, a fully fit Vautour would give anything a huge task to overcome given the right prep over 2 miles
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:D I thought you might still be hanging in there.

I think running him RH at Punchestown over the shorter trip was not the way to end the debate on his ideal trip. Paz's shout for targets looks the most likely but value always to be found in being contrary imo.
 
Great to see Coneygree jumping a few poles today, photo posted by Mark Bradstock on his twitter account.
 
Vanilla said:
Great to see Coneygree jumping a few poles today, photo posted by Mark Bradstock on his twitter account.
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Not seen that, will take a look.
I do fear for the horse though, at the moment he has a massive 'fragile' title to carry around and we all hope he comes back as good as he was at HQ 18 months ago....
 
Following the sad demise of Marito, is there a danger to On The Fringe in the Foxhunters?
6/1 available.
 
Vanilla said:
Following the sad demise of Marito, is there a danger to On The Fringe in the Foxhunters?
6/1 available.
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Age maybe ?
Took longer to come to himself last year, poor opening season performance and I'm sure he didn't get to Chelt spot on, the fact so many were in close proximity suggests he wasn't 100%, he was arguably more impressive at Aintree and Punch.

If that was his true running then the likes of Current Event and Paint The Clouds come into it and Current Event I think is probably the one to take over his crown.
Probably still needs to prove he stays the Foxhunters trip but he'll be just 10 come March.

At the prices I could back both, 6/1 and 33/1, we know this is their only target.....
 
Great point about being their only target Isty, we probably spend too much time trying to second guess the aims of so many horses, even harder to work out than usual at the mo, courtesy of the Ricci battalions, it used to be a case of £100 a month on Quevega, then a bit of speculation on the championship races, but I had a good run with Hurricane Fly, all changed now, last seasons Champion hurdle winner could be aimed at anything from the same race again to the Gold cup, what's a punter to do?
 
My (stubborn and) persistent belief that Arch Villain would come good was rewarded today so I've taken the plunge and taken the 6/1 On The Fringe, I'm no trader but I reckon it's about 6 months until we see the horse in public and I'm sure he'll be a shorter price in Jan/Feb than he is today, 6/1 is a nice price about a horse that assuming he gets there sound will be no bigger that 7/4.

Mr M - there are probably only 3 or 4 races at the festival that we can be sure are targets for horses and this is one of them, so, whilst we know the ante post market is littered with hard luck stories this is one race we can be absolutely certain where OTF is heading, 6/1 is too big....
 
I love when I see new posts in this thread. I long to get back to talking about the proper game, National hunt. Cant wait until the flat is over to we see the likes of Sprinter, Faugheen, Douvan, Annie, Altior etc come back out.
 
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