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Stupid Questions

BigBucksFlatSpot said:
Thanks both

Told you it was a stupid question :joyous:
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Well done for asking.

It isn't clear, and it should be!


It confuses me in handicaps :highly_amused:
 
Does the handicapper take account of a claimer when assessing the run of a horse?

For example if a 140 horse has a jockey on board claiming 7lbs and runs to 140, would the handicapper drop him cos he’s effectively run below his rating.
Or is it the price you pay for trying to ‘game the system’? I know you’re not doing anything wrong but you know what I mean.
 
Saw the post race interview with Aidan Coleman at Catterick earlier where he talked of heavy at Catterick being like soft at Wetherby. It's never really crossed my mind before but now i'm curious if anyone has ever looked into just how heavy is heavy, how good is good etc... at certain courses (not sure how you'd even quantify it?!) or if it's so trivial and open to interpretation that there's not much point/it'd be impossible. I suspect the latter, but here we are, live from the stupid questions thread...
 
Atlantic Viking said:
Saw the post race interview with Aidan Coleman at Catterick earlier where he talked of heavy at Catterick being like soft at Wetherby. It's never really crossed my mind before but now i'm curious if anyone has ever looked into just how heavy is heavy, how good is good etc... at certain courses (not sure how you'd even quantify it?!) or if it's so trivial and open to interpretation that there's not much point/it'd be impossible. I suspect the latter, but here we are, live from the stupid questions thread...
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I thought there was a stick they dropped now to give a reading that should be the same no matter which course you’re at?
But that wouldn’t explain why it’s always desperate at Haydock, no matter :cat:
 
Brital said:
I thought there was a stick they dropped now to give a reading that should be the same no matter which course you’re at?
But that wouldn’t explain why it’s always desperate at Haydock, no matter :cat:
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Yeah there's the going stick, which i've always assumed is the same everywhere?! Just curious as regardless, conditions at courses are often described as being markedly different/unique.
 
Atlantic Viking said:
Yeah there's the going stick, which i've always assumed is the same everywhere?! Just curious as regardless, conditions at courses are often described as being markedly different/unique.
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The soil will definitely have a different make up to it.
As will the moisture content %.

Not sure exactly what the going stick measures, whether it's just how far it goes in, when given a set amount of pressure, or is more sophisticated than that.

And obviously they only check the going at designated areas of each course.
Some courses will have more higher ground, than lower and vice versa.
Then there are of course shaded areas and protected areas of ground at many courses.
 
Why is Willie Mullins 2/7 to win the 2020/2021 Irish Trainers Championship? He's over 600k ahead and has an unbelievable army of horses for Fairyhouse and Punchestown? I'd have thought the bookies had made a mistake only I discovered three different bookies are quoting 2-7 according to oddschecker - I haven't had a big bet yet as I'm afraid I'm missing something - anyone any thoughts?

I would have thought 1/10 would be closer to the correct odds.
 
harchibald said:
Why is Willie Mullins 2/7 to win the 2020/2021 Irish Trainers Championship? He's over 600k ahead and has an unbelievable army of horses for Fairyhouse and Punchestown? I'd have thought the bookies had made a mistake only I discovered three different bookies are quoting 2-7 according to oddschecker - I haven't had a big bet yet as I'm afraid I'm missing something - anyone any thoughts?

I would have thought 1/10 would be closer to the correct odds.
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Aye, lump on, if that's your bag.
 
harchibald said:
Why is Willie Mullins 2/7 to win the 2020/2021 Irish Trainers Championship? He's over 600k ahead and has an unbelievable army of horses for Fairyhouse and Punchestown? I'd have thought the bookies had made a mistake only I discovered three different bookies are quoting 2-7 according to oddschecker - I haven't had a big bet yet as I'm afraid I'm missing something - anyone any thoughts?

I would have thought 1/10 would be closer to the correct odds.
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Need some sort of filter that saves me from reading posts like this when i've had a snifter. Already laid out half my childrens inheritance on Viking Flagships enjoyable well reasoned posts.
 
Atlantic Viking said:
Need some sort of filter that saves me from reading posts like this when i've had a snifter. Already laid out half my childrens inheritance on Viking Flagships enjoyable well reasoned posts.
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Put down the hard stuff fellow Viking. I find a 6.5% IPA to be the ideal accompaniment to some Festival research.

Your comment is very flattering, just don’t expect me to reimburse the kids if the selections go down the pan!
 
Viking Flagship said:
Put down the hard stuff fellow Viking. I find a 6.5% IPA to be the ideal accompaniment to some Festival research.

Your comment is very flattering, just don’t expect me to reimburse the kids if the selections go down the pan!
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Pressure Drop in Tottenham making some joyous NEIPAs in that range at the moment. Pure sunshine in a can
 
Here's one - why are mares deemed to be stamina led?
 
robith said:
Pressure Drop in Tottenham making some joyous NEIPAs in that range at the moment. Pure sunshine in a can
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I haven't managed to get to the brewery itself but they have a bar in Hackney which is a collab with Verdant and I could happily sit in there all day working my way through the board! :drunk:
 
Viking Flagship said:
I haven't managed to get to the brewery itself but they have a bar in Hackney which is a collab with Verdant and I could happily sit in there all day working my way through the board! :drunk:
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Back when things were normal I spent a couple of tremendously unproductive days in The Experiment!
 
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