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The Boodles Fred Winter Juvenile Handicap Hurdle

Goshen was beating far better horses in his early races. There's no comparison.

Far better is probably a stretch, but he was beating better horses for sure. They expect Nassalam to win tomorrow though.

I don't think he'll be winning the Triumph though, despite having him backed. Could place which is why I'm keeping the bet open, although I think the Irish have the better juveniles this season.
 
Far better is probably a stretch, but he was beating better horses for sure. They expect Nassalam to win tomorrow though.

I don't think he'll be winning the Triumph though, despite having him backed. Could place which is why I'm keeping the bet open, although I think the Irish have the better juveniles this season.

Probably hoping rather than expecting he wins tomorrow. He may win but on form Adagio should be fav.
 
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Sage Advice was impressive in the first at Kempton, decent irish flat horse. Hope the Dr targets here rather than the Triumph...
 
This is something I wrote in my diary. I've added it here because I forget sometimes that not everyone can see it:

'One I will mention specifically is Longclaw. Qualified early for his mark, and smartly run quietly behind Duffle Coat back in October at Wetherby. They haven't hidden Duffle Coat away this season, and he could be Triumph bound as the stable 3rd string off a mark of 142 and rising without leaving his box, or it's feasible he also goes to the Boodles near the top of the handicap. Whichever route I'm sure he'll run a solid race'.

'Longlaw based on Duffle Coat's mark is probably going to get something like 133 in the Boodles. I can't see how the assessor can give him much more. The handicapper is going to struggle to give him more than that after the Wetherby run that's under his jurisdiction. A peak 90 flat turf mark is easily in the right range, he clearly prefers the better ground that he's likely to get, and it's presumably why Elliott got his runs in early as part of some careful campaigning to link his mark to Duffle Coat. There will be plenty with good profiles for the race come March, and you wouldn't be putting the mortgage on anything this far out, but you can't ignore Elliott's record in this race. This one feels properly laid out as a long term plan, and 20/1 nrnb with PP feels well worth getting onside'.


Elliott has bossed this race the last few seasons, largely because of the multiple option he has, leaving him able to save one or two good ones for here and to manage their marks. Given the need to get three runs to get a mark, the two obvious ones are this one and Glorious Zoff, who also was given two runs in the UK (a long way) behind Monmiral, and a previous run at Sedgefield. At this point I wouldn't discount either winning the race, but assuming it normal good to soft ground for the Festival, I'm probably leaning slightly towards Longclaw. The caveat being he needs good to soft. If it's soft or worse I'd probably look to get out. And I suspect he'd be saved for elsewhere then anyway. Either way it leaves the double protection of backing nrnb with Paddy Power, or laying on the exchange if it became necessary. It's an Elliott horse in the Boodles, so I'd be confident of a profit in that circumstance.

It's also possible Duffle Coat comes here off a mark in the mid 140's. Even off top weight or close, his run in November suggests you wouldn't ignore him either, but 10/1 nrnb doesn't appeal.
 
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What does everyone think about Nassalam for this? Last two years have been won by Aramax off 138 and Band of Outlaws won off 139 and I do feel this race will start heading to more exposed, classier rivals. So maybe 140 for Nassalam isn't a huge issue.

I thought he ran well yesterday and would really benefit from a fast run race. I think Id fancy him to reverse the form of the winner in a Championship race so they may still fancy the Triumph. He isn't priced up for this yet mind you.
 
He'll go to the Triumph you'd think CCM. His mark is likely to go up again from yesterday.
 
He'll go to the Triumph you'd think CCM. His mark is likely to go up again from yesterday.

Yes you'd think Triumph more likely, but I was thinking he might stay on 140 and Adagio be raised 6lbs to 142?
 
Anyone thinking of backing Hacker Des Places he suffered a nasty cut LTO and currently waiting to see what the damage is

Given he’s joint 2nd fav in the betting - for anyone interested - he’ll only be walking for the next month whilst the cut heals so the word is it’ll be at least the end of March before he’s out again.
 
Looks a murky picture this race currently with revised marks etc so I have backed Autumn Evening 33/1 ew nrnb alongside my Saint Sam any race bet as both might come here, both were closely matched behind Zan last time out.
 
There is a Juvenile Hurdle on Saturday that is the first Key RAC Ebor my Irish Racing Diary.

Its full of some interesting entries (first race at Fairyhouse).

I will update the diary to point people towards the final decs on Thursday.
 
There is a Juvenile Hurdle on Saturday that is the first Key RAC Ebor my Irish Racing Diary.

Its full of some interesting entries (first race at Fairyhouse).

I will update the diary to point people towards the final decs on Thursday.

Just been looking at this one Saxon - fascinating race in prospect if some/all of the principals stand their ground.

And could prove definite for Busselton if he's to go for the Boodles. I'm optimistic he won't win!

Still available at 20-1.
 
Just been looking at this one Saxon - fascinating race in prospect if some/all of the principals stand their ground.

And could prove definite for Busselton if he's to go for the Boodles. I'm optimistic he won't win!

Still available at 20-1.

Yes, he is the one at the top of my Boodles prospects before the final decs come out.

Hope he goes for this race, as well as Quilixios running, which is overdue.

COLTOR is the other, he is one I picked out for his Christmas debut and who ran an excellent first race over hurdles when second to French Aseel.
 
Interesting entries for the 4yr old maiden hdl on Monday 18 at Punchestown.
Coltor for Weld, Palm Beach, Persia and Halifax for Joseph
and Showbusiness a French import for Gordon.
If Palm Beach runs that will be 3 runs into him.
 
Interesting entries for the 4yr old maiden hdl on Monday 18 at Punchestown.
Coltor for Weld, Palm Beach, Persia and Halifax for Joseph
and Showbusiness a French import for Gordon.
If Palm Beach runs that will be 3 runs into him.

I would love to see Coltor and Palm Beach run here.
Would sort out if either are Boodles potential, without stepping out of Maiden races. :encouragement:
 
Me aswell Saxon, with joseph getting back to some sort of form
I think Palm Beach could be interesting.
 
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