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Northern Trust Company Novices Handicap Chase 2020

BigChaang

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Well , No fancy write ups today . Sorry People:dejection:.
Had a certain Hold the Note in mind for this race , when he ran at Kempton.
On boxing day , but unfortunately was pulled up after roll again fell in front.
Had a little nibble at 33-1 with bill hill last week .
And it seems Mark Howard agree's . mentioned the horse yesterday on S/Life.
Ran well at Warwick on Saturday , surely more to come from him.
 
With a new rating of 145 it doesn't scream winner to me, but if it runs you have a nice bet at 33/1. skybet are nrnb 12/1 which feels about the right price imo.
 
I just looked back to last years thread , which i also started. I can't remember the .
Ratings band for this race . but there is a stat about highest rated horse winning.
last 5 runnings , or something similar.
 
I just looked back to last years thread , which i also started. I can't remember the .
Ratings band for this race . but there is a stat about highest rated horse winning.
last 5 runnings , or something similar.

That's only because most years there's been only a few pounds from top to bottom.
not really a handicap, which is why they might get rid.
 
Had Off you Go down for this, has been in 3 chases but doesn't seem to have a handicap mark yet. Anyone know why that is the case?
 
Had Off you Go down for this, has been in 3 chases but doesn't seem to have a handicap mark yet. Anyone know why that is the case?

Probably needs 3 completed chases.
 
You need to be rated 142-145 to be guaranteed a run in this. Hold the Note was put up by Dave Jennings and Mark Howard after Saturday. He'll probably go off closer to half the current 16/1.
 
You need to be rated 142-145 to be guaranteed a run in this. Hold the Note was put up by Dave Jennings and Mark Howard after Saturday. He'll probably go off closer to half the current 16/1.

Great , I'm happy with that ( Hold the note ) . Straight to the festival then ??.
Also have picked out Champagne court - rated 143 , Trained by jeremy scott.
@ 25-1 currently.Look's like ch. court needs another run , but won .
a bonus race at Plumpton last time out ,
 
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Matt Brocklebank has put up Dallas Des Pictons for this on sporting life, assuming he gets the right mark. Fingers crossed he’s right!
 
I’m on Hold the Note and Beakstown for this and it’s a rare race I’m pretty comfortable with that position
 
Literally just saw on Racing t.v - Jeremy Scott stable tour .
and he say's Champagne court being aimed for this race .
So happy with those two - Champagne court and hold the note .
for now and at the prices.
 
....surprised Lisp is only included in the Hills market given Tom Bellamy said this would be the obvious target following its impressive win at Plumpton.

One thing is for certain, all roads lead to Cheltenham as the Plumpton race carried a £50k bonus if it also wins at the Festival. Not seen since, I have no idea if there’s an issue protecting its handicap mark. Lisp is shorter for the Grand Annual and even appears in the Arkle betting.
 
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How likely is Simply The Betts to run in this?

No concern about Hold The Notes 12lb rise?
 
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I've backed 2 in this, Champagne Court at 25s and Dallas Des Pictons at 33s. Not really a big ante post gambler on the handicaps but I've chanced a few this year.
 
....surprised Lisp is only included in the Hills market given Tom Bellamy said this would be the obvious target following its impressive win at Plumpton.

One thing is for certain, all roads lead to Cheltenham as the Plumpton race carried a £50k bonus if it also wins at the Festival. Not seen since, I have no idea if there’s an issue protecting its handicap mark. Lisp is shorter for the Grand Annual and even appears in the Arkle betting.

Problem is with Lisp they have nothing to play with as he has a mark of 144, yet needs to have a 3rd chase run in order to qualify
 
Problem is with Lisp they have nothing to play with as he has a mark of 144, yet needs to have a 3rd chase run in order to qualify

For me Lisp is an out and out 2 miler and I mentioned him for the Grand Annual after debut. He could get further over fences but I’d still prefer the 2 mile route myself.
 
I've backed 2 in this, Champagne Court at 25s and Dallas Des Pictons at 33s. Not really a big ante post gambler on the handicaps but I've chanced a few this year.

They are the exact same to Ive come down on taylor!

Had a good study of this yesterday. Shame Rouge Vif blew his mark last time as he looks crying out for 2 1/2 miles and he was top of my shortlist for this.... shame as don't think he's going to be quite up to the Arkle / Marsh and going to be stuck a bit inbetween now.

Will also keep my eye on Tower Bridge but imagine he might be a similar price to what he is now nearer to the day itself. And thought this could still be an option for Early Doors if he wins next time or gets placed in a decent race.
 
Anyone heard anything of GE's galvin? 6th in the ballymore, fell on chase debut then had 2 more runs in chases since - hurdle rating 140 - could be a plot for this!?
 
Anyone heard anything of GE's galvin? 6th in the ballymore, fell on chase debut then had 2 more runs in chases since - hurdle rating 140 - could be a plot for this!?

Hello HE and welcome to the forum. Although Galvin has an Irish hurdle mark of 140 he was assessed by British handicapper as 144 before 2 solid performances at Cheltenham and Ayr. I wouldn't be surprised at a low level maiden/novice chase in Scotland and fingers crossed he gets a 145 or less.

BTW I wonder if you could do a request bet from Skybet for Cerberus in the Boodles. Anything over 20/1 would be very acceptable