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Cheltenham 2020 - Ante post bets

Kevloaf said:
I've always liked the idea of a related double... not the kind that get cancelled.... but ones where horses avoid another or a win changes anothers target etc....

Altior King George / Chacun Pour Soi QMCC is one...Or Cyrname King George / Altior QMCC for example....




One that's just popped into my head that I've not seen mentioned is from the Mullins stable tour.


Laurina and Melon are both confirmed as going novice chasing. I obviously don't need to introduce either, and there merits are discussed in the relevant threads.... I can't see either in an RSA though, whichever way we cut it. Partly due to the fact they were deemed CH horses (with Melon placing) and the other point being the yard already have some decent staying novice types in Carefully Selected and Next Destination.

So ruling the RSA out, is it likely they get split up? Mullins doesn't have as big a problem sending horses to the same race as people may think, but I feel fairly confident that IF these two end up being his best novice chasers... then they'll slot them in to the Arkle and JLT. There is only really Draconien from the top of my head for these races (although I'm sure there will be loads more) but nothing will have the Cheltenham Festival form of Melon or the hype of Laurina so...



Laurina (Arkle) Melon (JLT) is 314/1 with 365 only. Next best is slybet with 188/1

Melon (Arkle) / Laurina (JLT) - 168/1 with WillH - Only 142/1 with 365 if you can/want cash out.





I'm actually not that keen on either of these horses... so I've spent a surprising amount of time thinking about it :very_drunk:
A chase debut win for both and I think I'll be ahead of the curve though?
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I like your thinking here KL, JLT betting looks especially open at the moment
 
Few bits from Gordon Elliott today

Envoi looks to be running over 2miles the weekend rather than the 2m6f race (I assume this means we won't see Andy Dufresne the weekend)
Samcro confirmed to go friday (sounded like Keith Don might ride)
Shattered love likely headed to Clonmel rather than Down Royal
No decision on Delta's race the weekend yet GE prefer for Ladbrokes
Apples Jade likely to go to Navan to start off
 
Just reread the first page

Probably should have taken that 9/1 on Klassical Dream
 
Hurricane fly said:
Just reread the first page

Probably should have taken that 9/1 on Klassical Dream
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Wasn't obvious he was staying over hurdles at that point, and Espoir Dallen was still with us.

Only a few points shorter now, I wouldn't beat yourself up about it ... :highly_amused:
That would have been a case of being lucky rather than good
 
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Klassical Dream would have battered Espoir D’Allen


Obviously no way to back that up but he would have
 
Maybe if he ran the supreme significantly quicker you could. I don't think he did buytthat's completely from a lack of hearing about it and if he did I imagine I'd have read it by now.

I'll check.


Half a second slower.
 
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Supreme and Ballymore
Won bumper really nice other day in tough conditions in what might have been a decent race.
With Henderson and been schooled and looked after by McCoy
McManus owns.
Is obviously fit and well and now going novice hurdling
paddy will give 40's if you ask them
 
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Rathhill entered in the Greatwood, he's chucked in off his mark but wonder what damage he might do to it in the next 7 days. The Greatwood could make a man of him!
 
The King Pimm said:
Nube Negra just won well at Fakenham, wonder if he could end up in the Close Brothers or Brown Advisory??
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"Had a frustrating season over hurdles, with no allowances and unable to compete to the standard we hoped he would, but he was always waiting to go over fences and he was very good when winning first time up in a beginners' chase at Warwick, beating a horse rated 151 that would have been far better than him over hurdles. We may look at the Henry VIII at Sandown on December 7, while Kempton over Christmas would have to come into consideration before we decide on his big spring target. He's an out-and-out two-miler who jumps like smoke."
 
Just commented on him in the Arkle thread. Jumping was very impressive albeit only fakenham but jumped well at Warwick previous start as well. Was always held up over hurdles but was always up with the pace today and put it to bed very easily. Will need to watch back the Warwick race as I can’t remember if she came from off the pace there or not
 
Where would we think Dlauro goes?
Albert Bartlett Hurdle ? Or otherwise ?
 
Fakenham is a left handed track and she jumped straight and appeared comfortable. Not sure how much her rating will go up off the back of that, the rest of the field struggled so made her look better than she may have been
 
The King Pimm said:
Fakenham is a left handed track and she jumped straight and appeared comfortable. Not sure how much her rating will go up off the back of that, the rest of the field struggled so made her look better than she may have been
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Despite the slightly effeminate name, she is a he.
 
pic dohry backed for greatwood today
along with fusil raffles.
 
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