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Triumph Hurdle 2020

A few on my radar, only backed Mick Pastor so far.

Obviously really early in the season, but Fujimoto Flyer @ 50/1 looks a fair animal. Won well in Auteuil LTO, beating some potentially good horses in the process (including form ties with Messagere, below).

And I'm not sure whose colours it will run in (possibly Ricci) but Gamin Original was purchase by Harold Kirk, in May @ Auteuil. Can't seem to get a price for that one yet. Waiting on a couple of bookmakers to get back to me still.

Be interesting to see which French horses are the subject of decent bids from these waters, a horse that looks to have serious potential is the filly Messagere, again no price for this yet, and probably unlikely to be unless purchased.

This is only basic information, so any further info would be great, if anyone knows!
 
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Is Mick Pastor this year’s JP horse that turns up and wins the Triumph trial at every Cheltenham meeting so we all get excited by our fancy prices then it’s nowhere on the actual day?
 
FaugheenTheMachine said:
Is Mick Pastor this year’s JP horse that turns up and wins the Triumph trial at every Cheltenham meeting so we all get excited by our fancy prices then it’s nowhere on the actual day?
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I would have thought so, though as Scooby has rightly pointed out, and with what happened to Pic D'Orhy, more and more horses are being brought in from France, and late on too. So with regards to the actual festival, I'd say it would be best to bide time with this market, though Mick Pastor is an obvious shortener, if things go to plan in the trials!

There are a few fairly decent looking animals running in France currently, as noted in the previous post, any one of them, or something else entirely could end up here!

Pentland Hills only debuted over hurdles in late February, before then I'm not sure he was on anyone's list! After all, he was just an average flat horse!
 
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Around 10 or so years ago, before the big investment started in juveniles, Alan King used to have a good record in the race. He has a horse called The Olympian who has been sold to J.P. McManus and this could be the horse to bring him back into the mix again. He’s by a new sire with no jumps progeny to reference but he looks like he could be a nice type if they go jumping.
 
JackieMoon33 said:
Around 10 or so years ago, before the big investment started in juveniles, Alan King used to have a good record in the race. He has a horse called The Olympian who has been sold to J.P. McManus and this could be the horse to bring him back into the mix again. He’s by a new sire with no jumps progeny to reference but he looks like he could be a nice type if they go jumping.
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Interesting second time have seen him mentioned in recent days - snippet below from a blog I read. Credit @Jimbo_JumpsMan


JP McManus wasted little time in snapping up this exciting juvenile hurdle prospect following 3 good efforts on the flat last summer and, although I’m not mad about Juvenile hurdlers, I feel that he is worth taking a small interest in now given his connections.

This chestnut son of Olympic Glory placed second at both Windsor and Goodwood before landing a class 3 event over 1m2f at Newmarket in October 2018. The runner-up, namely Travel On, gave the form a boost when winning his next start by 5 lengths. While the third home, Mind The Crack, won his next two starts by a combined distance of 8 lengths.

The Olympian hasn’t been sighted since that Newmarket contest which could suggest that he has suffered a setback at some stage. However, it may be that connections simply wanted to give the youngster time to mature and strengthen ahead of his jumping career, which would surely stand him in good stead.

I am prepared to take the risk at 33/1 and am therefore happy strike a small wager now.
 
Anyone any clue which of the three year olds Joseph might nick off his dad this year. ??
Or are they still upset over last year.
Seen some have been priced up already.
I've been looking at the breeding and Barbados, Il Paradiso, Constantinople look possibilities, but going through some of the others this afternoon.
 
quevega said:
Anyone any clue which of the three year olds Joseph might nick off his dad this year. ??
Or are they still upset over last year.
Seen some have been priced up already.
I've been looking at the breeding and Barbados, Il Paradiso, Constantinople look possibilities, but going through some of the others this afternoon.
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I havent unfortunately. but, micromanage of mullins is a nice flat horse. That could potentially rival them in terms of class. Shame about the price though, was wishfully thinking of 40s or so. Due to not being in the "right"colours.



Micromanage.
“I think he'll improve plenty for it. Donnacha liked him and he's ridden plenty of good ones.

“He's a brilliant jumper and schooled only last week. I've schooled him myself and he even jumped as a two-year-old. He's as good a jumper as we've ever had as a three-year-old.”
 
Yep, watched his race this morning, looked really nice.
price just not tempting enough for me either, but looks a likely type.
High flat rating for Mullins and just enough experience.
Those Comments likely responsible for the price too.
 
Norway could be one, Galileo and Kingmambo.
 
Micro Manage looks to have been cut with 365 and Sky. 14s and 16s respectively.
 
yep.
as good a flat horse as mullins has had.
ive had to part at 22's WH
 
quevega said:
yep.
as good a flat horse as mullins has had.
ive had to part at 22's WH
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I had the dreaded 'refer to trader' message on this bet this morning with Hills. Never had a problem with this account until today. Backing a triumph horse in September shouldn't be a problem but evidently it is!
 
Going to be the first 'forum' horse of the festival at this rate.

Probably had a little of money over past couple of days FM, liabilities this early on they probably don't want too much.
 
ComplyOrDie said:
Going to be the first 'forum' horse of the festival at this rate.

Probably had a little of money over past couple of days FM, liabilities this early on they probably don't want too much.
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I hope that's the case CoD. Not sure I've ever backed a triumph horse in September before, in fact, I usually wait until January at the earliest.

Glad to read it's a potential forum horse . :p
 
When I have a bet on the triumph I try to avoid Mullins horses he's not won the race at all previous 19 years. Don't know if he won any before that like.
 
He also hadn’t won a Gold Cup until this year.....first time for everything.
 
Liam301287 said:
When I have a bet on the triumph I try to avoid Mullins horses he's not won the race at all previous 19 years. Don't know if he won any before that like.
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Any reasoning you can think of to back up why Mullins may not be good with juveniles?



In my opinion that 'trend' is more of an anomoly than it is a solid reason not to back a horse.




I wouldn't be backing any flat horse that I haven't seen jump at less than 20/1, ever. So 16/1 is too short for me now, he'll be that during his debut when I can make a decision.
 
When I choose the triumph horses I go for trainers who got a good strike record and also good jockeys who have a decent record over the years in this race. I tend to take a look at Hendersons Kings and Elliots mainly the three I look at.
 
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