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  • #91
    Donns Trends

    ( in fairness OV drumming on about the same stats)

    Grand National trends

    Despite the modifications to the course, the Aintree Grand National is still a strong trends race. Despite the easing of the fences – or perhaps even because of the easing of the fences – you have to look for an older horse who is towards the lower end of the handicap, and that seems to be more the case in recent years than it ever has been before.

    Hedgehunter in 2005 broke through the 11st barrier that hadn’t been breached since Corbiere in 1983, and it is difficult to argue that Willie Mullins’ horse would not have won had he carried considerably more than the 11st 1lb that he had been allotted, such was the ease of his victory. Don’t Push It pushed the weight bar higher in 2010 when he won with 11st 5lb on his back, and Neptune Collonges’ 11st 6lb in 2012 was more weight than any other horse had carried to victory since Aintree legend Red Rum won his third National under 11st 8lb in 1977.

    You can point to the fact that four of the last six National winners carried 11st or more, and you can conclude, therefore, that you need to focus on the top end of the handicap. Only 12 horses are set to carry 11st or more in the long handicap as things stand at present, so you can argue that it should pay to focus on just those 12.

    However, dig a little deeper. The first four home in last year’s National all carried 10st 13lb or less, 10 of the first 11 home in 2013 carried 10st 11lb or less, the next four home after Neptune Collonges in 2012 carried 10st 12lb or less, and five of the first six home in 2011, including the winner Ballabriggs, carried 11st or less.

    The age stat is even more compelling. The headline figures tell you that the younger horses are up against it. Bindaree in 2002 is still the last eight-year-old to win it, and he was just the third eight-year-old since Red Rum caught Crisp to win the first of his three in 1973. And don’t even start on seven-year-olds: Bogskar in 1940 is the last seven-year-old to win it.

    Even nine-year-olds do not have a great recent record. The last five winners were 10 or 11, and nine of the last 12 winners were 10 or 11 or 12.

    Last year, the first two home were 11 and 10, in 2013 the first two home were 11 and five of the first six were 11 or 12, and in 2012 five of the first seven home were 10 or older and one of them was 14, while in 2011 the first six home were all 10 or 11.

    There is an angle to Rocky Creek, who ran so well last year as an eight-year-old, and who should do better this year as a nine-year-old, especially given that he can race off a 2lb lower mark for some reason. However, the percentage call is to side with horses aged 10 or older who don’t have highweights to carry. Horses like Soll and Chance Du Roy and Alvarado, those types of horses.

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    • #92
      "drumming on" is it Mayo

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      • #93
        The Irish challenge also includes Jim Culloty’s Lord Windermere (Robbie McNamara) and Spring Heeled (Nick Scholfield), Willie Mullins-trained Ballycasey (Ruby Walsh), Mouse Morris’s First Lieutenant (Nina Carberry) and Gordon Elliott’s Cause Of Causes (Paul Carberry).

        On Saturday Maurice Phelan confirmed Portrait King (Davy Condon) an intended starter while Peter Fahey said Owega Star (Robert Power) also runs.

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        • #94
          David Cottin is riding River Choice.

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          • #95
            Originally posted by Old Vic View Post
            "drumming on" is it Mayo
            dog with a bone

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            • #96
              one more comes out

              Paul Nicholls trims Grand National squad - Benvolio aimed at Scottish - but has Rocky Creek, Unioniste, Rebel Rebellion & Mon Parrain

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              • #97
                David Pioe who already has a National to his name thanks to 2008 winner Comply or Die, faced the prospects of missing the party this year but Soll has snuck in at the bottom of the weights on 10st 2lb as 65 contenders remained engaged for the world’s most famous race.

                “It is great that Soll has made the top 40 for the Grand National on Saturday,” Pipe wrote on his website. “He has been around the National fences before and having only joined Pond House this season he has done nothing wrong by winning both starts for the yard.

                “The application of blinkers and a tongue strap have brought about improvement and I’m really looking forward to seeing our gentle giant in the big race. He has schooled over the National style fences at home and it is all systems go.”

                Last year’s winning trainer Richard Newland will have back up to Pineau De Re after Royale Knight was the last horse to secure a starting berth at Monday's stage, which leaves Pipe’s other three hopes requiring horses to come out.

                He added: “The Package and Broadway Buffalo both need horses to come out to get in but they would take their chance if they happened to get in, while Standing Ovation will almost certainly miss the cut.”

                Paul Nicholls reduced his National squad to four after ruling out Benvolio, who might follow stablemate Sam Winner to Ayr for the Scottish equivalent instead.

                Home Farm, Double Ross, Hadrian's Approach, Teaforthree, Merry King, Renard and Sydney Paget were the other horses to be scratched.

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                • #98
                  think druids nephew has a chance still not decided on final selection yet

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                  • #99
                    Wilson Renwick latest on injury list. Corrin Wood ride up for grabs.

                    I suppose Donald could call Katie but his dad might haunt him.

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                    • Mon Parrain has to be considered with Sean Bowen up, can't do much wrong that lad at the mo

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                      • Originally posted by MrMcGoldrick View Post
                        Mon Parrain has to be considered with Sean Bowen up, can't do much wrong that lad at the mo
                        Amazing when jockeys get in a streak how these races just keep going their way.

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                        • I'm strong on Alvarado, nicked some 25s a couple of weeks ago and likely to go off shorter.
                          Alwasy back a few rags at cricket score prices, managed to get The Rainbow Hunter, Super Duty, Wyck Hill and Rebel Rebelion all at 90s or bigger last night

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                          • Paul Kealys tips


                            I have backed Spring Heeled ante-post and should have backed Shutthefrontdoor when he was 20-1, but having sifted through my accounts can't find any bets.
                            If taking a fresh look now my top four at the odds would be: 1 Al Co, 2 Royale Knight, 3 Rocky Creek, 4 Soll.
                            by Paul Kealy 7:14 PM ↑0

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                            • Royale Knight will shorten more imo.

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                              • Here is my latest field:

                                No FORM HORSE AGE WGT TRAINER RTF% JOCKEY OR
                                1 1-373P Lord Windermere29 9 11-10 J H Culloty Robbie McNamara 161
                                2 4-1116 Many Clouds29 8 11-9 Oliver Sherwood71 Leighton Aspell 160
                                3 38-613 Unioniste63 7 11-6 Paul Nicholls53 Noel Fehily 157
                                4 25-2P1 Rocky Creek49 9 11-3 Paul Nicholls53 Sam Twiston-Davies 154
                                5 24683 First Lieutenant23 10 11-3 M F Morris20 Ms N Carberry 154
                                6 12-F11 Balthazar King148 11 11-2 Philip Hobbs59 Richard Johnson 153
                                7 2461-1 Shutthefrontdoor152 8 11-2 Jonjo OŽNeill40 A P McCoy 153
                                8 1-0P80 Pineau De Re30 12 11-0 Dr Richard Newland50 Daryl Jacob 151
                                9 2173P Ballycasey30 8 10-13 W P Mullins69 Ruby Walsh 150
                                10 015-44 Spring Heeled49 8 10-12 J H Culloty Nick Scholfield 149
                                11 454121 Rebel Rebellion21 10 10-12 Paul Nicholls53 Ryan Mahon 149
                                12 028180 Dolatulo30 8 10-11 Warren Greatrex20 Dougie Costello 148
                                13 1-P015 Mon Parrain42 9 10-11 Paul Nicholls53 Sean Bowen 148
                                14 32213 Carlito Brigante42 9 10-10 Karen McLintock Brian Harding 147
                                15 40233 Night In Milan42 9 10-9 Keith Reveley James Reveley 146
                                16 545211 Rubi Light25 10 10-9 Robert Alan Hennessy A E Lynch 146
                                17 12751 The Druids Nephew32 8 10-9 Neil Mulholland75 Aidan Coleman 146
                                18 20-751 Cause Of Causes32 7 10-9 Gordon Elliott18 Paul Carberry 146
                                19 23-P50 Godsmejudge21 9 10-8 Alan King42 Wayne Hutchinson 145
                                20 1-0P33 Al Co21 10 10-8 Peter Bowen60 145
                                21 24430 Monbeg Dude32 10 10-7 Michael Scudamore Liam Treadwell 144
                                22 10-33P Corrin Wood84 8 10-7 Donald McCain44 144
                                23 261U-P The Rainbow Hunter49 11 10-7 Kim Bailey44 David Bass 144
                                24 F-3331 Saint Are61 9 10-6 Tom George33 Paddy Brennan 143
                                25 0-800B Across The Bay30 11 10-6 Donald McCain44 Henry Brooke 143
                                26 31P0-5 Tranquil Sea42 13 10-5 Warren Greatrex20 Gavin Sheehan 142
                                27 111U14 Oscar Time52 14 10-5 Robert Waley-Cohen Mr S Waley-Cohen 142
                                28 120P1P Bob Ford28 8 10-4 Rebecca Curtis 141
                                29 P2-67 Super Duty42 9 10-4 Ian Williams33 141
                                30 P16-2F Wyck Hill49 11 10-4 David Bridgwater50 141
                                31 P11P4 Gas Line Boy56 9 10-4 Philip Hobbs59 James Best 141
                                32 P46-55 Chance Du Roy62 11 10-4 Philip Hobbs59 Tom O'Brien 141
                                33 8P1292 Portrait King25 10 10-3 M Phelan Davy Condon 140
                                34 3-8256 Owega Star34 8 10-3 Peter Fahey Robbie Power 140
                                35 U58P14 River Choice49 12 10-3 R Chotard David Cottin 140
                                36 265-11 Court By Surprise154 10 10-3 Emma Lavelle25 Richie McLernon 140
                                37 51P4-5 Alvarado52 10 10-3 Fergal OŽBrien67 Paul Moloney 140
                                38 50-P11 Soll42 10 10-2 David Pipe73 Tom Scudamore 139
                                39 0115-P Ely Brown70 10 10-2 Charlie Longsdon40 139
                                40 3-4132 Royale Knight23 9 10-2 Dr Richard Newland50 Will Kennedy 139
                                41 113625 Baileys Concerto42 9 10-2 Dianne Sayer25 Brian Hughes 139
                                42 5F57U8 Duke Of Lucca31 10 10-2 Philip Hobbs59 139
                                43 38-842 Raz De Maree28 10 10-1 Ms Sandra Hughes80 138
                                44 30-6P1 The Package30 12 10-0 David Pipe73 137
                                45 3515F2 Broadway Buffalo32 7 10-0 David Pipe73 Katie Walsh 137
                                46 5-4323 Maggio54 10 10-0 Patrick Griffin 137
                                47 P-114F Guess Again30 10 10-0 A J Martin63 137
                                48 2U731 Goonyella28 8 9-13 J T R Dreaper75 J J Burke 136
                                49 12243 Gallant Oscar32 9 9-13 A J Martin63 136
                                50 2383P Vintage Star30 9 9-13 Sue Smith22 136

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