2022 Flat Racing Antepost thread

[BigChaang]

I have a bit of the murturgh horse - hoping for anywhere in top 10

Which one thorne365 ?. ., . i see there are two Murtagh runner's.

[thorne365]

I have a bit of the murturgh horse - hoping for anywhere in top 10

[FinalFurlong91]

Never ending story and dower house run tomorrow for aidan in the 5:35 fillies maiden

Dower house full sister to churchill

Never ending story by dubawi out of a camelot mare

Joseph also runs frankel half sister to stone age

Surely worth a watch that race

[FinalFurlong91]

Just not the same horse it seems, no excuse for fitness this time

[FinalFurlong91]

6:00 chantilly
Suesa 7/4
Coral Eclipse
Vadeni 2/1

Trying that double to get some money on vadeni

Retrieval mission for suesa but a return to anything like last year's form sees her beat these handily

[FinalFurlong91]

Same for his 2000 guineas winners

Magna Grecia September
Saxon warrior August
Churchill may
Gleneagles June
Camelot July

So 4 of 5 June or later

[FinalFurlong91]

So which of Statuette or Meditate do we expect to go that route? Statuette looked sprinter all over to me.

Neither potentially

Both look to have plenty of speed in there pedigree, could be early season types (meditate more so)

No guarantee come the moyglare and fillies mile they will still be aidans best fillies

of the two id be more inclined toward statuette as she should stay better than half sister tenebrism being by justify

But his 1000 guineas horse may not have even run yet or could have been beaten in a maiden in the last few weeks

One thing i have just noticed is that 5 of Aidans last 6 1000 guineas winners made there debut in or after june

[HoldenTheReins]

So which of Statuette or Meditate do we expect to go that route? Statuette looked sprinter all over to me.

Statuette should get a mile on breeding but I think it'll be between them two currently.

[Spectre]

Going by recent renewals the key 1000 guineas trial is very much the fillies mile (the moyglare a close second)

Just not always the actual winner

last 4 winners Hermosa, Love, mother earth and cachet all beat in the fillies mile and won the guineas

Then you have Lauren's and Rhodedendron who won the 2 renewals before those 4 and finished second in the Guineas

And Minding the year before who went on to win the guineas

So which of Statuette or Meditate do we expect to go that route? Statuette looked sprinter all over to me.

[FinalFurlong91]

Going by recent renewals the key 1000 guineas trial is very much the fillies mile (the moyglare a close second)

Just not always the actual winner

last 4 winners Hermosa, Love, mother earth and cachet all beat in the fillies mile and won the guineas

Then you have Lauren's and Rhodedendron who won the 2 renewals before those 4 and finished second in the Guineas

And Minding the year before who went on to win the guineas

[HoldenTheReins]

That Statuette looked like an absolute rocket on debut

Looked a tank also, could fill into her frame very well.

[Zachx02]

Looks like Auguste Rodin and Statuette are out this Sunday. If they win they'll go even shorter for The Derby and 1000 Guineas.

That Statuette looked like an absolute rocket on debut

[FinalFurlong91]

Will Tuesday go off as Irish Derby favourite?

Definitely

And justifiably so

It does tell you that all of obreins colts are useless though, so I'd be looking to avoid them like the plague for the leger

He clearly doesn't think he has anything capable of winning as there's no chance he'd run a filly in a stallion making race otherwise

[HoldenTheReins]

Looks like Auguste Rodin and Statuette are out this Sunday. If they win they'll go even shorter for The Derby and 1000 Guineas.

[HoldenTheReins]

Will Tuesday go off as Irish Derby favourite?

Not sure. Spanner in the works on my Westover bet.