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You underestimate our capacity to stretch this out
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Hahaha!!!!
You underestimate our capacity to stretch this out
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Yes but can we code them somehow so that those that want to can easily ignore themOriginally posted by riccirich View Post
Paul will want to ride all three.
They can have a "pacemaker" for kopek in the turners.
Final demand doesn't have the turn of foot needed for the turners.
Theres something to stretch it out. should keep everyone occupied for the next few hours
perhaps we can start an alternative thread for folks still wanting to debate which race these two will go in and a help line for those that deep down know but are finding the emotional turmoil too hard to bear.
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Close to I’d say …if you are thinking serious bet though I’d consider the possibility of him boiling over in the preliminaries. There’s things they can do as mitigation obviously but there is a well stocked graveyard of young horses that lost their race before the start line.Originally posted by Kevloaf View PostComment
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Yes. And I say this as someone who is heavy on him for the Turners in both singles and multis.Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
I was celebrating the win ....then thought "wait a minute...."
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Not sure if there's more than one RacingTV interview but the one I've seen doesn't have Willie confirming Kopek for the Supreme or that he is his best Supreme horse.Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
https://www.racingtv.com/watch/on-de...erviews/678585 - from about 1m 50secs
'Is Kopek Des Bordes in your mind very much the clear Willie Mullins Supreme novices horse?' Willie just answers that he thinks someone has said that he;s gone clear favourite and then tals about Salvator...
'Salvator Mundi will have it all to do to get up to him but I think he does have that ability'...goes on to say we just haven't seen it yet due to having 1 run was my interpretation.
Willie does seem quite clear on Final Demand not going for the AB though..'I wasn't dreaming about the Barlett.
Would be good for others to watch the interview and hear their interpretation too.
I personally think that Kopek could still easily go for the Turners but it does seem Final Demand is more so Turners bound(where he wouldn't beat The New Lion imo).
Kopek and Final Demand are now Willie's 2 best novices from what we have seen on the track but I think Salvator would be above them if we had seen him run again. That's my hope anyway!!
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Originally posted by riccirich View Post
Paul will want to ride all three.
They can have a "pacemaker" for kopek in the turners.
Final demand doesn't have the turn of foot needed for the turners.
Theres something to stretch it out. should keep everyone occupied for the next few hours
A lovely thought but not going to happen. Not even stones can help us this time . Need to just concentrate on getting Kopek and FD on board again but in different races and enjoy the ride !
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What was the plan with Salvator Mundi after his last run, did they say he'll be out again or is he going straight there?Comment
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Owner said Supreme on Twitter. No point stressing about it for the next 5 weeks if you don't have him backed for it. If you want to back him, may get bookies taking him on as it's the first race, plus the usual first race offers.Comment
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I here you. I won't print what I posted in our WhatsApp racing group.Originally posted by Evesham Road View Post
Yes. And I say this as someone who is heavy on him for the Turners in both singles and multis.
I was celebrating the win ....then thought "wait a minute...."
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While I think he is the most likely winner of whichever races he turns up in. I’d be more confident of him winning the turners with the TNL to beat. He has the right mix of cruising speed and stamina.
Turners is likely to be a 6/7 runner field , slower pace, less things to go wrong with a view to chasing next season.
supreme is likely to be 12/13 runner field(6 of willies?)
Buzz of the first race , fast pace 2 miles and slick jumping required. Think there’s much more chance for mistakes .
I would back him for wherever he turned up but I would be more confident if he turned up in the turners.Comment
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He did change the subject to generalisms and didn’t confirm or deny anything. As ever who knows what they doComment
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From the RaceIQ data:
'Lossiemouth completed the first mile in 1min 55.55sec. To add some context to that, Kopek Des Bordes had taken 6.21sec longer (about 25 lengths) to complete the same part of the journey in his race, carrying the same weight'.
As I put previously, they went much quicker in the Champion Hurdle whereas the novice race was more steadily run early on. Be a different test for Kopek in the Supreme you'd think, but one he's well up to the talent to meet.Comment
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Full interview is here: https://youtu.be/mLt3fPfW_fw?si=pCoO35NTXUoAMKjw
Worth listening to in full. My take is that Final Demand just won’t go AB at all - Willie’s reaction says it all.
The language about Kopek and Mundi is more nuanced - it’s possible Kopek could go to either race from listening to that. And we know Mundi is only entered in the Supreme.
Kopek pulled a little in the run from rewatching, but nothing excessive and he was clearly lit up by the faller. His jumping didn’t scream Supreme to me - he was high and slow or deliberate at quite a few. Yes of course he’s got a huge engine, but the jumping and the fact he got very lit up in the parade ring beforehand means there will be a debate about the Tuesday or Wednesday in the Mullins camp I think given the crowd on the Tuesday and the first race.
I don’t think it’s a done deal he goes Supreme, albeit I think it’s much more likely than not. Mundi could be as good as FD and KDB, but at the moment the latter two are the two best novices in the camp who’ve proved it on the track.
(I say this as someone who’s backed him equally for both in singles, albeit multiples more in the Turners).Comment
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He's getting readily matched up above 20s on BEX for the Turners. And at 6/4 for the Supreme.
Nothing worse than having the right horses for the wrong races in antepost multiples
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