September ‘24 Yankee

[Wayward Lad]

A trend was forming even before Protektorats win in the Ryanair last year with 160 + horses stepping down from 3m rather than stepping up from 2m. Also maybe horses that don’t truly get a fast run three and quarter miles Gold Cup trip ? or even horses that maybe are just short of Gold Cup winning class ? Winners of the Ryanair that may fit this profile I would suggest are Envoi Allen, Allaho, Frodon, Vautour, Cue Card and Alberta’s Run. Other 3m 160 + chasers that have been placed have included Conflated and Tornado Flyer. However three Gold Cup winners have ran in this race over the last few years (Don Cossack, A Plus Tard and Imperial Commander) although Don Cossack and A Plus Tard were placed in it before winning the Gold Cup afterwards. Only Imperial Call has done the double( Ryanair and Gold Cup). Looking at this years race then horses such as Bravemansgame, L’homme Presse and Corbetts Cross could fit the same profile, as well as last years winner Protektorat ( Envoi Allen nearly won it last year after winning the year before). Obviously the caveat and maybe why the prices are so big on these horses, is more around will they run in the race rather than their respective chances of winning it. I do not believe that Bravemansgame, L’Homme Presse or Corbetts Cross can beat Galopin Des Champs, Gerry Colombe or Fact or File over the Gold Trip and in respect of Corbetts Cross then you have the same ownership consideration with Fact or File. They may well miss Cheltenham altogether and go to Aintree etc but if they run at Cheltenham then will they run in the Gold Cup ? and if they run in the Ryanair what will their price be ? Worth getting them in the book methinks.

[Eggs]

….hopefully Irish Rugby is reading input with interest ahead of Captain’s decision time.

Middle_Of_March has suggested he’ll be back to run things next month.

Keep the suggestions coming.

My nomination is Murcia (TH), strong case made elsewhere on site and a bit of 33-1 available.

[Lobos]

Great post Wayward Lad.

[Eggs]

….would you put Gentlemansgame in that category Wayward Lad? Highly tried at the 3 Spring festivals after beating BMG in the Charlie Hall, he looks short of top quality despite running ok for portions of his races.

Not seeing him in any Ryanair lists, maybe he’s just a dour stayer without the top class finish. I actually used Hills double boost on him to get 132-1 for next years Grand National, I dare say that will be proven to be a bit daft.

[Irish Rugby]

….hopefully Irish Rugby is reading input with interest ahead of Captain’s decision time.

Middle_Of_March has suggested he’ll be back to run things next month.

Keep the suggestions coming.

My nomination is Murcia (TH), strong case made elsewhere on site and a bit of 33-1 available.

He certainly is. I will remind everyone at the end of next week that I will be reading the entire thread that weekend and will post the selections on the last day of the month, Monday 30 September, and at an agreed time, so everyone has the chance to receive it at the same time.

[Wayward Lad]

Good spot Eggs re Gentlemansgame, as yes he would fit the trend profile. For me he would need to improve a few pounds though (could do as he is only 8).

[Wayward Lad]

Thanks Lobos. First time I have stuck my head above the parapet !

[Killiney]

I to think your on the ball WL and my fancy would be L’Homme Presse. I watched a re-run of last years Gold Cup recently mainly to see how close Gerri got but then I noticed this horse running really well out in front 2 out only to fade thereafter. It was L’Home Presse which made me think the Ryanair trip etc might be made for him.

[Fouroverthrutwo]

On the subject of 3m chaser's dropping back in trip, I was desperately hoping Willie would send Bronn to The Ryanair last year after fading in the closing stages of the RSA the year before. instead he declared Bronn a stayer and entered him over extended trips this year, only for the horse to return form figures of 44PP. I'm hopeful he comes back in trip at The Festival and maybe gets entered in the new Turners handicap. One for the February 25 Yankee!

[JackieMoon33]

On the subject of 3m chaser's dropping back in trip, I was desperately hoping Willie would send Bronn to The Ryanair last year after fading in the closing stages of the RSA the year before. instead he declared Bronn a stayer and entered him over extended trips this year, only for the horse to return form figures of 44PP. I'm hopeful he comes back in trip at The Festival and maybe gets entered in the new Turners handicap. One for the February 25 Yankee!

Bronn would be ineligible for the new Turners handicap as he's not a novice.

[Fouroverthrutwo]

Bronn would be ineligible for the new Turners handicap as he's not a novice.

Thanks mate. I hadn't seen that it was for novices only.

[JackieMoon33]

Thanks mate. I hadn't seen that it was for novices only.

I believe its an open novices handicap now whereas it was a 0-145 novices handicap before.

[Exar Essay]

I believe its an open novices handicap now whereas it was a 0-145 novices handicap before.

I wonder what the qualifying criteria will be? The traditional 3 runs over hurdles like The Boodles?

[JackieMoon33]

I wonder what the qualifying criteria will be? The traditional 3 runs over hurdles like The Boodles?

At the very least I hope they go with the ‘State Man Rule’ of four runs.

[Exar Essay]

At the very least I hope they go with the ‘State Man Rule’ of four runs.

Agreed. Very easy to get 3 chases out the way early when ratings will be kept lower.