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2024 Cheltenham - the odds on offer.

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  • I've had my first two for next year:
    Mighty Potter 40/1 Gold Cup
    Gala Marceau 25/1 Mares Hurdle

    Can't see a whole lot of value elsewhere....

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    • Originally posted by Istabraq View Post
      I've had my first two for next year:
      Mighty Potter 40/1 Gold Cup
      Gala Marceau 25/1 Mares Hurdle

      Can't see a whole lot of value elsewhere....
      Do you think Flooring Porter is value at 25/1? I would say so. I like the Mighty Potter angle.

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      • Originally posted by Winging The Last View Post

        I wouldn't be surprised he stays over hurdles after that run in the BANC
        He ran absolute sound on his second chase run over a trip too far, watch him come into contention last week he will be fine if they persist with chasing and stick to middle distance.

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        • Sir G jumped horrendously I thought.

          Paul Nicholls seems to be making a bit of a comeback! I'm actually going to pay some respect to his for the 2024 festival. Stay Away Fay for the BANC being a fairly obvious one that seems very fairly priced and I've added. Got two of his already!

          Constitution Hill actually ruins a lot of these as betting opportunities at the moment imo. As he looks the most likely winner in about four races, but the prices of the others doesn't really factor in his likely absence (obviously in all but one of them, all being well).

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          • Originally posted by Istabraq View Post
            I've had my first two for next year:
            Mighty Potter 40/1 Gold Cup
            Gala Marceau 25/1 Mares Hurdle

            Can't see a whole lot of value elsewhere....
            Didn’t I read on here over the weekend that Mighty Potter didn’t travel over well again this year according to Elliott and he said there are big doubts of him travelling over again

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            • Originally posted by Winging The Last View Post
              Do we think Dream to Share will go hurdling or ever take to it. He's not bred for it at all, plus it was mentioned about running in big races on the flat.

              One I like for the shorter novice hurdles is Down Memory Lane
              He’s one for the shortlist for sure

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              • Originally posted by Benjy23 View Post
                Sir G jumped horrendously I thought.

                Paul Nicholls seems to be making a bit of a comeback! I'm actually going to pay some respect to his for the 2024 festival. Stay Away Fay for the BANC being a fairly obvious one that seems very fairly priced and I've added. Got two of his already!

                Constitution Hill actually ruins a lot of these as betting opportunities at the moment imo. As he looks the most likely winner in about four races, but the prices of the others doesn't really factor in his likely absence (obviously in all but one of them, all being well).
                Yeah I think the resurgence of Nicholls at Cheltenham has start. Currently you have Stay Away Fay (BANC) should be closer to favourite, Stage Star (Ryanair) Should be shorter, Hermes Allen (Will most likely go the turners with SAF going BANC) should be one of the best British novice chasers next season and Seeyouinmydreams will go into favourite for the mares novice if she wins at Aintree

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                • Originally posted by Winging The Last View Post

                  Yeah I think the resurgence of Nicholls at Cheltenham has start. Currently you have Stay Away Fay (BANC) should be closer to favourite, Stage Star (Ryanair) Should be shorter, Hermes Allen (Will most likely go the turners with SAF going BANC) should be one of the best British novice chasers next season and Seeyouinmydreams will go into favourite for the mares novice if she wins at Aintree

                  …not forgetting Captain Teague who ran respectably in the CB, the 33-1 Ballymore with Sky looks very big.

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                  • Originally posted by Winging The Last View Post

                    Didn’t I read on here over the weekend that Mighty Potter didn’t travel over well again this year according to Elliott and he said there are big doubts of him travelling over again
                    I'd like this confirmed if anyone could please? I thought there was nothing wrong with his prep and he travelled and jumped fine during the race. I've read that Russell thought MP was going as fast as he could(which is rubbish from rewatching the race imo) but my opinion is that as a top experienced jockey, he should have realised Cobden was far too easily dictating a slow pace and he would never have got past him turning for home went the sprint was on. The Finishing speed figures from attheraces confirmed this with Stage Star getting 109.3% which was the fastest across all the races over the 4 days, so basically they crawled before having a sprint finish.

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                    • Originally posted by Eggs View Post


                      ….good info, already single figures for the Bartlett, would be an early blow for anybody on at fancy prices. Not seeing him in the BANC market as yet.
                      tried to get him added for BANC and TNC with Paddy but they said they wouldn’t currently!

                      also does anyone know if shops honour online ante post prices?

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                      • Originally posted by Winging The Last View Post

                        Didn’t I read on here over the weekend that Mighty Potter didn’t travel over well again this year according to Elliott and he said there are big doubts of him travelling over again
                        It was mentioned in here and probably taken from a post race interview.
                        Personally if that’s what was said I think once they’ve had time to reflect over the Summer they could easily reverse that call and come back over for a shot at the biggest prize in NH racing.
                        It’s the Gold Cup, Conflated ran well but is probably short of Gold Cup class, there won’t be many more darts the yard can throw….

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                        • Originally posted by Cheltenham Novice Chase View Post

                          Do you think Flooring Porter is value at 25/1? I would say so. I like the Mighty Potter angle.
                          It may well be CNC given how poor the division has been in recent years and is there anything else that looks capable of dominating the division ?
                          I hear Shoot First could be that horse but he needs to come back from his setback and prove to be about 25lb better than his mark, but given how poor Flooring Porters prep was maybe he has developed a level of fragility that would worry backers ?
                          My gut feel is 25/1 is about right but I don’t think I could be convinced to back him now, but I’d be happy to have a decent bet at 7/2 on the day if he’s proved a high level of performance….

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                          • Will Vauban go chasing?

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                            • Originally posted by Istabraq View Post

                              It was mentioned in here and probably taken from a post race interview.
                              Personally if that’s what was said I think once they’ve had time to reflect over the Summer they could easily reverse that call and come back over for a shot at the biggest prize in NH racing.
                              It’s the Gold Cup, Conflated ran well but is probably short of Gold Cup class, there won’t be many more darts the yard can throw….
                              Elliot is taking about Mighty Potter going to Aintree in a few weeks time. So it seems he's already changed his mind on never travelling with him again.

                              Although I guess underperforming there after traveling badly wouldn't help his cause for running at next year's Cheltenham festival. So could be one to watch...

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                              • Originally posted by gwaaan View Post
                                Will Vauban go chasing?
                                I doubt it. Willie said he wasn't the type last year. Can't find the quote now, sorry.

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