Cheltenham 2023 - Early fancies

[robith]

I'm still not convinced how great a lot of those bets actually are to be honest, as much as they may look fancy now.

What price was FV to win the Supreme immediately after the Bumper?

Lovely tickets to be sitting on right now of course but are they actually any better than the rolling singles would've been?

Running with the 80/1... I'd guess he was 16s for the bumper at the time (as an absolute minimum). So you'd need him 7/2 or below for the Supreme. It's probably about right isn't it. But not any real great value above separating the bets like.

I recall the Shiskin/Envoi Allen win novice/championship race doubles....little did I know EA would actually outperform Shishkin in the CC

[Lbur4288]

Champion Bumper for her surely if that is she.

I think I'll hold my bullets for now. I'm one of those who will look at the P2P runs etc and back a horse but I can't help but feel that everyone is expecting a mass production line of Facile Vega clones and we all know how the game works. Until I see a run and/or something else to encourage me to part with my cash...

[Lbur4288]

Out of curiosity, have you got a link to the tweet? General feeling was that they won't name her until she's close to being ready to run.

https://twitter.com/Racing_ITK/status/1574789994119630850?t=ojlcjQltEyaSB53NzHIDUg&s=19

I know nothing of this guy or how credible he is, I actually had to check the MNH market on Sky because I thought it was a joke at first but lo and behold Adelphi Vega is priced up so I thought I'd see if anyone could shed any light on it. I appreciate the tweet seems more in jest but the market entry got me curious, not that I'll play the price.

[Quevega]

Out of curiosity, have you got a link to the tweet? General feeling was that they won't name her until she's close to being ready to run.

yeah I thought same.
Some random names priced up by skybet also !!!

[RoadToCheltenham]

Adelphi Vega is 14s for the Mares Novices (shocking price), seen on social media that this is Mullins horse by Quevega, anyone able to confirm?

Out of curiosity, have you got a link to the tweet? General feeling was that they won't name her until she's close to being ready to run.

[Lobos]

Adelphi Vega is 14s for the Mares Novices (shocking price), seen on social media that this is Mullins horse by Quevega, anyone able to confirm?

Champion Bumper for her surely if that is she.

[ComplyOrDie]

Adelphi Vega is 14s for the Mares Novices (shocking price), seen on social media that this is Mullins horse by Quevega, anyone able to confirm?

The last Filly out of Quevega didn't do so well. Admittedly this one is by Walk In The Park, but still!

I think I'll give her a miss, for any race, at this present time, especially with prices like that available.

[Lbur4288]

Adelphi Vega is 14s for the Mares Novices (shocking price), seen on social media that this is Mullins horse by Quevega, anyone able to confirm?

[Atlantic Viking]

4-1 I reckon.
But I agree on the whole.
Like most odds available, it's getting the ones that are value.

I think the 66's and 150s was before he even ran in a bumper or after his debut maybe ?? but I think before he ran in public.

I placed the Bumper/Supreme 150/1 RAB on 20th Dec, so you're correct. There was a hell of a lot of hype around for him at the time and for once it was well warranted.

[Benjy23]

….more appropriate was his price to win a/r after he won CB. His CB SP was 15/8, I expect he was quite short to win a/r even before he won in March.

I still don't see it I'm afraid. Depending at what point that 66s any race was. I'm going to assume before his bumper debut, as above. In which case I still don't make it great value.

I remember him being highlighted on her at least 25/1 just for the bumper.

[Eggs]

I'm still not convinced how great a lot of those bets actually are to be honest, as much as they may look fancy now.

What price was FV to win the Supreme immediately after the Bumper?

Lovely tickets to be sitting on right now of course but are they actually any better than the rolling singles would've been?

….more appropriate was his price to win a/r after he won CB. His CB SP was 15/8, I expect he was quite short to win a/r even before he won in March.

[Quevega]

I'm still not convinced how great a lot of those bets actually are to be honest, as much as they may look fancy now.

What price was FV to win the Supreme immediately after the Bumper?

Lovely tickets to be sitting on right now of course but are they actually any better than the rolling singles would've been?

4-1 I reckon.
But I agree on the whole.
Like most odds available, it's getting the ones that are value.

I think the 66's and 150s was before he even ran in a bumper or after his debut maybe ?? but I think before he ran in public.

[Benjy23]

I'm still not convinced how great a lot of those bets actually are to be honest, as much as they may look fancy now.

What price was FV to win the Supreme immediately after the Bumper?

Lovely tickets to be sitting on right now of course but are they actually any better than the rolling singles would've been?

Running with the 80/1... I'd guess he was 16s for the bumper at the time (as an absolute minimum). So you'd need him 7/2 or below for the Supreme. It's probably about right isn't it. But not any real great value above separating the bets like.

[Eggs]

Facile Vega was 50/1 A/R for this season at the biggest last season.

….he was 66-1 to win CB & a/r in 2023 with Sky.

[Spectre]

Facile Vega was 50/1 A/R for this season at the biggest last season.