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  • 2022 Handicaps

    All County. Ultima, Coral Cup, Pertemps, Plate, Kim Muir, Grand Annual, Fred Winter, M Pipe discussion.

    First suggestion:

    The Big Breakaway - Ultima

  • #2
    The Tizzard's think a lot of this horse and I was wondering if they might fancy a tilt at The Gold Cup next year but I don't think the horse is mature enough or strong enough yet (he's only just turned 6). I think that this race would be a better option at this stage of his career.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Istabraq View Post
      All County. Ultima, Coral Cup, Pertemps, Plate, Kim Muir, Grand Annual, Fred Winter, M Pipe discussion.

      First suggestion:

      The Big Breakaway - Ultima

      ....TBB set for Aintree next week:

      https://www.attheraces.com/news/2021...eam-at-aintree
      Last edited by Eggs; 30 March 2021, 06:52 AM.

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      • #4
        I’d love to see the Skeltons aim Alnadam at the plate next season.

        He travelled like a dream in the Ultima until he completely emptied up the hill. And considering Skelton was saying before the festival that he needed soft ground, a return to normal soft festival ground would be perfect.

        Just a worry they think he’s better than that & ruin his mark over the course of next season.

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        • #5
          I've just taken a cursory glance at some of the archived threads where we've all collectively failed to mention a single handicap winner from page after page after page, and a lot of those threads were started in October/November!!

          I'm a massive hypocrite though because the first chance I get I'm backing Zanza for the Grand Annual. There you go, I broke the trend, page 1, handicap winner!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Eggs View Post


            ....TBB set for Aintree next week:

            https://www.attheraces.com/news/2021...eam-at-aintree
            Guess he will blow his mark if he wins this, but I had him as a cert to go down the Ladbrokes-Gold Cup route that Tizzard loves so much. If he doesn't win next week, I'd be very interested in him at Newbury next season...

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            • #7
              Originally posted by charlie View Post
              I've just taken a cursory glance at some of the archived threads where we've all collectively failed to mention a single handicap winner from page after page after page, and a lot of those threads were started in October/November!!

              I'm a massive hypocrite though because the first chance I get I'm backing Zanza for the Grand Annual. There you go, I broke the trend, page 1, handicap winner!
              Think the majority of my returns from handicaps this year (calling them 'returns' feels like a piss take relatively speaking, but every penny in handicaps was welcome! ) came from going in on write-ups i'd seen on here half an hour or less before the off. That's my strategy for 2022 handicaps, the Naiad thread and drunken last minute darts...

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              • #8
                Originally posted by charlie View Post
                I've just taken a cursory glance at some of the archived threads where we've all collectively failed to mention a single handicap winner from page after page after page, and a lot of those threads were started in October/November!!

                I'm a massive hypocrite though because the first chance I get I'm backing Zanza for the Grand Annual. There you go, I broke the trend, page 1, handicap winner!
                Yeah that is odd, personally I did OK having built numerous multis around Elham Valley, Shantou Flyer, Not That Fuise and Happygolucky but it seems strange that between all the great minds in here we couldn’t find a handicap winner in the ante post discussion...

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Istabraq View Post

                  Yeah that is odd, personally I did OK having built numerous multis around Elham Valley, Shantou Flyer, Not That Fuise and Happygolucky but it seems strange that between all the great minds in here we couldn’t find a handicap winner in the ante post discussion...
                  Sky Pirate did manage it, although I'd all but lost faith come the off!

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                  • #10
                    I had several second placed , Entoucas , Farclas , The Bosses Oscar , Shantou flyer . But overall disappointing .
                    Will do my best to hold on until N.R.N.B next year ...

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                    • #11
                      Phase 1 of the Tizzard's master plan to get TBB handicap mark down to 143 accomplished

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                      • #12
                        I wont be backing any UK handicappers

                        Or very few anyway

                        The UK handicappers are raising horses too much for winning uncompetitive races

                        Whereas the irish are staying on good marks or going up a couple of lbs running in ultra competitive handicaps

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by FinalFurlong91 View Post
                          I wont be backing any UK handicappers

                          Or very few anyway

                          The UK handicappers are raising horses too much for winning uncompetitive races

                          Whereas the irish are staying on good marks or going up a couple of lbs running in ultra competitive handicaps
                          I remarked on this prior to the National..

                          Cloth Cap was 4/1 at the start of the week when he has 18 Irish handicappers to beat.

                          Watching what happened in Cheltenham handicaps then CC was the best rated Brit (of course) but that was likely to mean less trying to stop the Irish dominating off their ratings.

                          I wouldnt back anything but Irish runners in the Grand National until further notice.
                          "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Istabraq View Post
                            All County. Ultima, Coral Cup, Pertemps, Plate, Kim Muir, Grand Annual, Fred Winter, M Pipe discussion.

                            First suggestion:

                            The Big Breakaway - Ultima
                            I’m guessing they will have a serious go at the Ladbroke trophy then work from there.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Priceiskey View Post
                              I’m guessing they will have a serious go at the Ladbroke trophy then work from there.
                              If that'st the route they take then fair enough, it's a big pot but a win will kill your mark unless you have a potential G1 horse and I think this is one of the differences between UK and Irish trainers, a cute Irish trainer will have a long range target and work back from there to ensure his mark is favourable, many UK trainers overstate their horses abilities and they end up running well in high class races thinking they are potential champions and blowing their mark.
                              How the changes at Tizzards affect strategy/plans only time will tell though...

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