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Queen Mother Champion Chase 2020

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  • The fact he fractured his pelvis is as far as you need to go before taking the odds he is now ante post for a race that won't be the easiest for him to win.



    He's better than Min.
    Last edited by Kevloaf; 9 December 2019, 10:37 PM.

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    • Originally posted by Hurricane fly View Post
      People hold the QMCC lose against him like he didn’t fracture his pelvis, can you imagine running the 400m hurdles with a fractured pelvis!?
      People knock Presenting Percy and he came back lame.


      If you read my post properly I'm saying it's a reason why people doubt him. If you can manage to get to the end of the post without getting giddy sat trying to knock every post you can that I make, I feel it's pretty clear I'm suggesting he's not a great ante post bet, but I'd back him on the day.... which implies I'm perfectly forgiving of the fact he didn't win that specific race.


      His form is questionable though, no doubts.
      Last edited by Kevloaf; 9 December 2019, 10:38 PM.

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      • Regarding form........ he smashed Fox norton in the Arkle who went on to lose a champion chase on the nod.
        But visually I’ve never seen a horse cover the ground like Douvan.
        I think your right about the antepost bet though. He went off 5/1 2 years ago without a prep run which is plenty big enough.

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        • Originally posted by Kautothegreat8 View Post
          Regarding form........ he smashed Fox norton in the Arkle who went on to lose a champion chase on the nod.
          But visually I’ve never seen a horse cover the ground like Douvan.
          I think your right about the antepost bet though. He went off 5/1 2 years ago without a prep run which is plenty big enough.
          That 2nd was to Special Tiara.

          I have no doubt Douvan is a better 2 miler than Fox Norton and Special Tiara.

          That's very different to Altior, Defi Du Seuil, Un De Sceaux... and you'd fancy any of them to beat Special Tiara?

          It's obviously good relative to that year. Without being injured he'd have 1 and probably 2 QMCCs

          We'll back him on the day, my guess is that'll be Thursday though.

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          • Time will tell but it’s a good debate

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            • I honestly think horses never truly reach the same level they were at before the injury but he looked great last time out and if there’s one man to get him fighting fit for the day then it’s Willie. I’d love to see it

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              • Willie posted a jockeys view vid of CPS schooling on Twitter, well worth a watch

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                • Originally posted by charlie View Post
                  Willie posted a jockeys view vid of CPS schooling on Twitter, well worth a watch
                  Great watch.

                  Re Douvan, for me as Kev says he's one to wait for on the day. If he turns up, he's likely to have other stablemates in there. He's not certain to be backed either, so his exchange price might be nice enough to back then if you want too. He drifted on his return from 364days of from 5-2 to 9/2 when he fell at Chelt. God knows what exchange price he was then as well.

                  He needs to make it there in one piece, and with the wealth of talent WPM has in the divisions there's even a chance he's left off and runs at home.

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                  • Originally posted by charlie View Post
                    Willie posted a jockeys view vid of CPS schooling on Twitter, well worth a watch
                    Think this is last years footage

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                    • If Douvan shows up in March for whichever race i'm fairly sure most of us would back him, some for nostalgic reasons some FOMO and others convinced he will win, i think i would be one of the latter

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                      • Cashed out all my Douvan bets for a profit. Its a huge if whether or not he even makes Cheltenham and after another set back I don’t see how he’d win a QMCC.

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                        • Any news on Le Richebourg? I can see him going here and Mcmanus sending Defi the Ryanair

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                          • https://twitter.com/racingtv/status/1204380261351333893

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                            • Originally posted by hors3s View Post
                              Any news on Le Richebourg? I can see him going here and Mcmanus sending Defi the Ryanair
                              I'll be surprised if le richebourg could get anywhere near in a champion chase. He was a little bit better than an awful bunch he was running against.
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                              • Originally posted by hors3s View Post
                                Any news on Le Richebourg? I can see him going here and Mcmanus sending Defi the Ryanair
                                Absolutely cant see them sending Defi ryanair. Why would you hes won the best trial for the race, go for the big one. Le Rich got a lot to prove to suggest he would would trouble these

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