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  • Vibes were all wrong about UDS in thr lead up to Cheltenham last season, and the constant shortening of his price on the day was odd as there didn’t seem to be any confidence on course but the exchanges drove him into 8/11.

    Worth bearing in mind too that only 6 went to post in that renewal so if considering an ante post interest you get the benefit of 3 places if playing each way but there’s a strong chance yours won’t go....

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    • I'm not convinced Douvan 'needs' to step up in trip.

      Don't care what anyone says about his well-being prior to this years CC, he looked like an absolute tank before coming down, suggesting he is still full of speed and zest for 2m.

      His only defeat, injury/falls aside was the race after the festival, against stablemate UDS, on UDS' preferred ground, having, IMO, been trained for Punchestown this time around as opposed to Cheltenham, as has been said, beside the exchanges, UDS was pretty weak in comparison to previous seasons at the festival.

      Maybe it's the sceptic in me, but I am not convinced Douvan will ever go up in trip, Sprinter Sacre never had to, and a lot thought he was done after his 2nd-PU-2nd in his form book, but as we know, came back to win his last 4 starts including the Champion Chase.

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      • I don't think anyone had said Douvan needs to step up in trip.

        He was going well in the CC but he fell a helluva long way out so I'd be wary of over-egging that form!

        As I've said a thousand times, he'd near Min in any race so he wouldn't be out of place in the CC at all!

        I just pondered that they could try him over further as there may be easier races for him to win if Altior and Footpad are set to clash in the CC

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        • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
          I don't think anyone had said Douvan needs to step up in trip.

          He was going well in the CC but he fell a helluva long way out so I'd be wary of over-egging that form!

          As I've said a thousand times, he'd near Min in any race so he wouldn't be out of place in the CC at all!

          I just pondered that they could try him over further as there may be easier races for him to win if Altior and Footpad are set to clash in the CC
          As a huge Min fan I would have to concede to this as well. Think Min will be the one stepping up in trip out of the 2 though, even with Footpad in the mix (although not Ricci owned), I do not see either Min or Douvan as Gold Cup horses and can see neither taking that big a step up in trip, however I do think they will be split up this time around.

          I know the Champion Hurdle has been touted as a route for Min, but time and time again connections have said Douvan is the quickest in the yard over 2m, so would a return to hurdles for him be out of the question as opposed to Min going down that route? Just a thought, and one I wouldn't mind hearing peoples opinions on. Maybe it is too late in the day to switch him back.

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          • Being 5hrs behind the UK at the mo I’m playing catch up. But read apples jade is back. But where will she go?

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              Being 5hrs behind the UK at the mo I’m playing catch up. But read apples jade is back. But where will she go?

              Tad harsh on West Country folk....

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              • Originally posted by Istabraq View Post
                somer1 somer1 is offline
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                Being 5hrs behind the UK at the mo I’m playing catch up. But read apples jade is back. But where will she go?

                Tad harsh on West Country folk....
                Lol lol. I’m in Toronto but fly back Friday 6am. Anyone want some maple syrup ? ������

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                • Originally posted by somer1 View Post
                  Being 5hrs behind the UK at the mo I’m playing catch up. But read apples jade is back. But where will she go?

                  Apple’s Jade was a beaten 1/2 favourite in Cheltenham’s Mares Hurdle last March and could again finish only third to Benie Des Dieux at Punchestown.

                  “She lost her form last year and she seemed to be in season all the time from Cheltenham. She’s back in now and seems fine again.

                  “You’d like to travel the same route with her if you could. The only thing different we might do is probably go for the Irish Champion Hurdle. Last year she went straight to Cheltenham and she tends to be better busy than not busy,” added O’Leary.

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                  • Originally posted by Istabraq View Post
                    somer1 somer1 is offline
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                    Being 5hrs behind the UK at the mo I’m playing catch up. But read apples jade is back. But where will she go?

                    Tad harsh on West Country folk....

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                    • Originally posted by Old Vic View Post
                      Apple’s Jade was a beaten 1/2 favourite in Cheltenham’s Mares Hurdle last March and could again finish only third to Benie Des Dieux at Punchestown.

                      “She lost her form last year and she seemed to be in season all the time from Cheltenham. She’s back in now and seems fine again.

                      “You’d like to travel the same route with her if you could. The only thing different we might do is probably go for the Irish Champion Hurdle. Last year she went straight to Cheltenham and she tends to be better busy than not busy,” added O’Leary.
                      Ideal. If the real Apples Jade turns up she'll take some beating.

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                      • Originally posted by Rhinestone_Cowboy View Post
                        Been chipping away at this 22/1 Hills price boost for Commander of Fleet in the Ballymore. I agree with others about how it's normally good to play the any race market but 13s versus 22s is just too tempting. I know I'm influenced by what happened with Samcro last season but can see them following a very similar plan. I also wouldn't be surprised at all if at some point in the next few weeks there won't be a similar (likely stable) gamble on CoF to the win the Ballymore. Samcro started that day at 16s and was best priced 10s by the end of it and I think 8s by the time of his first race. Quite possible I'd miss it while at work so 22s does make some appeal now.

                        Comments made by Jamie Codd in Jumpers to Follow:

                        'I sat on him up in Gordon's one day and he gave me a savage feel and he could just be top class. He's got the size and scope, and a great travelling speed so he could be very, very good. Being only 4 they could run him in another bumper, but he's won a point to point and is a future chaser, so Gigginstown might want to get him straight over hurdles. The Fame and Glory stock seem to be very nice and this lad looks like he could go all the way.

                        While part of me says surely lightning won't strike two years in a row it has for Mullins in the Supreme before so maybe it could be Gordon's turn in the Ballymore. Would be interested to know what others think?
                        22s now gone, was nice while it lasted

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                        • Originally posted by Rhinestone_Cowboy View Post
                          22s now gone, was nice while it lasted
                          The Land Rover Goffs bumper has thrown up some top class horses in the past (Simonsig, Petit Mouchoir). It wouldn't surprise me at all if he was another. Every time I watch that bumper performance it impresses me more.

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                          • Anyone know where the best price for COF for Ballymore is now?

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                            • Originally posted by thistlecracker View Post
                              Anyone know where the best price for COF for Ballymore is now?
                              I'd be all over the 16/1 with Bet365 now that the WH price has gone if I were to back him now.
                              Joint highest price and you have the potential for the cashout again where he is almost a certainty to be shorter as the months go on even if his target was heading towards the Supreme

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                              • I saw someone mention about the bet365 cash outs this year, I missed the boat on this but someone care to share what happened ? Sounds like bet365 messes up and people got some very nice cashouts... if this is the cash... I assume there isn’t much to tell

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