Any one heard anything about Willies Sandsend, he's got a nice looking profile for a race like this.
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Martin Pipe 2018
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Originally posted by Kevloaf View PostGordon Elliott has won the last two running of the 13:50 W.T. O'Grady Memorial Irish EBF Novice Hurdle today....
The Storyteller (who was fav for the Martin Pipe before getting ruled out) and Westend Star - who was beaten at the festival.
Dortmund Park has a different profile, but is he one that might end up there? On his French bumper form he has oodles of ability as has been highlighted on the forum.... and Elliott would want to win the Pipe race I'd imagine... I might request a price?Originally posted by Kevloaf View PostI am pretty annoyed I didn't back Dortmund Park each way at 12/1 - I put it in my betslip and then didn't do anything with it.
Now they respond and give a quote of 10/1
I assumed he'd be going for the Albert Bartlett and probably still will, but thought itw as interesting to read Elliott mention this as a possible target.
"Dortmund Park -
He’s got a lot of entries and he’s had one of those famous wind operations. What is the rule with the Irish going over to England? Ah, you have to declare them. He's in the Martin Pipe, Albert Bartlett, it will be one or the other."
16/1 NRNB? Now he clearly isn't ground dependant as he's won on good in France and in Soft over here.... BUT if he improves back on Good ground.... he clearly has a lot of ability.... and could end up being a bit of a steamer in the market?
Gigginstown have a decent win/place record too in the last few years in this race (which isn't particularly relevant but certainly not a negative!)
I'm going to add him 16/1 NRNB with Slybet now and hope for a nice mark (currently 141 Irish mark).... on the proviso if he doesn't get a decent/winnable mark, he'd go for the Albert Bartlett anyway!
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Originally posted by Kevloaf View PostDortmund Park is now available at 16/1 NRNB. I highlighted him originally the morning he won (without backing him, doh!) but it was because The Storyteller won it and was fav for the Martin Pipe before getting injured...and the year before that the winner for Elliott also ran in the Martin Pipe...(didn't do anything though).
I assumed he'd be going for the Albert Bartlett and probably still will, but thought itw as interesting to read Elliott mention this as a possible target.
"Dortmund Park -
He’s got a lot of entries and he’s had one of those famous wind operations. What is the rule with the Irish going over to England? Ah, you have to declare them. He's in the Martin Pipe, Albert Bartlett, it will be one or the other."
16/1 NRNB? Now he clearly isn't ground dependant as he's won on good in France and in Soft over here.... BUT if he improves back on Good ground.... he clearly has a lot of ability.... and could end up being a bit of a steamer in the market?
Gigginstown have a decent win/place record too in the last few years in this race (which isn't particularly relevant but certainly not a negative!)
I'm going to add him 16/1 NRNB with Slybet now and hope for a nice mark (currently 141 Irish mark).... on the proviso if he doesn't get a decent/winnable mark, he'd go for the Albert Bartlett anyway!
Personally I’m on Blow By Blow. If he can recapture his bumper form he’ll run his race.Last edited by SeanRock; 25 February 2018, 11:01 PM.
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Originally posted by Can't Catch Me View PostWhiskey Sour has the perfect mark for this, and one Im keen to back, but cant help but feel 2m is his trip.
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Originally posted by Can't Catch Me View PostWhiskey Sour has the perfect mark for this, and one Im keen to back, but cant help but feel 2m is his trip.
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Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View PostI'd say the step up in trip would be ideal, he won on the flat over 2m 1f at the Galway festival last year, and the only way he won a 2m hurdle this season was banking on 2 horses falling at the last, other than that he is readily held over 2m and the 2m 4f trip IMO will suit him.
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Originally posted by Viking Flagship View PostYes that'd be a big concern for me CCM. This race invariably goes to a staying type and I haven't seen anything to suggest that's what Whiskey Sour is.
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Originally posted by Can't Catch Me View PostHard to see where else they can go though VF wouldn't you say? He certainly doesn't look up to the Supreme or the Ballymore? And it seems a shame to waste the mark he has?
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Originally posted by Viking Flagship View PostYes very true, can definitely see them going here, but wouldn't be one I'd be backing. Although it's a good point by COD that he won over 2m1 on the flat which suggests he'll need a trip over hurdles. I just feel this race is for the proper 3m national hunt types (hence why giggi do so well in it).
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Originally posted by Folski View PostTed Walsh mentioned WS as a galway hurdle horse at Christmas
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