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Supreme Novices 2018

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  • Originally posted by archie View Post
    What price will Sharjah be for this if he bursts the Samcro bubble tomorrow? The current 7/1 nrnb is tempting.
    Or Real Steel ;-)

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    • What a race on Sunday, it can't come soon enough.

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      • My head hurts... can’t decide on what I what from this race

        This is a great opportunity for Samcro to live up to the hype. I want Samcro to win but if he wins well then would they be tempted to go to supreme. This would also kill off my Sharjah single AP bet and selection and makes a mess of my current thinking that Sharkah will go Supreme and Getabird+Samcro will meet in ballymore

        If Sharjah wins, then it propels him to the top of the supreme market. Samcro would go to Ballymore and Id imagine Mullins would be able to get a better look at how Getabird would do against him - I’m sure they’d run Getabird against Samcro

        Betting wise, I want Sharjah to win
        In terms of racing, I want Samcro to show us how good he is this weekend, and confirm that he is truely a beast!

        Maybe the best outcome this weekend is seeing a extremely close race between the two, leaving the whole field behind but also suggesting that Samcro would be better suited in the Ballymore - I don’t ask for much lol

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        • Samcro to blow them away and then head to the Supreme..... It could happen

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          • Originally posted by Faugheen_Machine View Post
            Samcro to blow them away and then head to the Supreme..... It could happen
            It can't. And I'm not being argumentative. There is no way on earth he'd be 10/1 and bigger for the supreme if they thought of sending him there. By all means if you think it back him. But that's money straight in t he bank for BF sportsbook.
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            • I think there is one chance that Samcro goes Supreme - if the ground is soft or heavy. Thought it worth a speculative point on that being the case

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              • Originally posted by Scooby91 View Post
                It can't. And I'm not being argumentative. There is no way on earth he'd be 10/1 and bigger for the supreme if they thought of sending him there. By all means if you think it back him. But that's money straight in t he bank for BF sportsbook.
                I don't think anyone other than connections can say he couldn't go supreme. A month ago it was 'he goes Ballymore' and now it's 'at the moment we go for the Ballymore'. Of course the Ballymore is the more likely race but that doesn't mean he couldn't or won't go supreme. Plenty of future star chasers have gone the supreme route and done well. Best Mate, War Of Attrition, Kicking King, there are probably more. I wouldn't encourage anyone to back Samcro without NRNB tho

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                • i would of thought Connections and Yard money is down already at 16s for ballymore. That move in the market after the schooling hurdle in tipperary a while back was telling.

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                  • Originally posted by Scooby91 View Post
                    It can't. And I'm not being argumentative. There is no way on earth he'd be 10/1 and bigger for the supreme if they thought of sending him there. By all means if you think it back him. But that's money straight in t he bank for BF sportsbook.
                    Of course it could happen, he'd be 1000 on the exchanges if it couldn't, not 10/1. It's unlikely, but it can happen.

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                    • The supreme isn't any more prestigious or easier to win than the ballymore regardless of how well he wins?

                      If he beats sharjah then it's Mullins who will decode whether to take him on with getabird in the ballymore, Not the other way around?

                      I'd take the NRNB though if i hasn't already got any race at a bigger price despite the above point

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                      • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
                        The supreme isn't any more prestigious it easier to win than the ballymore regardless of how well he wins?

                        If he beats sharjah then it's Mullins who will decode whether to take him on with getabird in the ballymore, Not the other way around?
                        Not sure why the Ballymore is an easier race to win Kev?

                        If he is electric over 2 miles on Sunday and wins comfortably then it does give them the option.....I do believe it's unlikely but I wouldn't be so bold in saying it can't happen.

                        Btw, I have no financial interest in him going for the Supreme, far from it.

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                        • Anyone think there's a bit of value in Real Steel in the Deloitte? He was badly outpaced last time before being hustled along quickly to make up the ground down the back. Coming to the last yes Sharjah did look the more likely winner but everyone knows how Patrick Mullins sit quiet as long as he can do as seen in many of his bumper rides. The way Townend reacted after the fall made me feel asif he a little bit left to go at I'm not sure it may just be me but surely there wasn't going to be a massive amount between them to justify the difference in odds?

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                          • Originally posted by Faugheen_Machine View Post
                            Of course it could happen, he'd be 1000 on the exchanges if it couldn't, not 10/1. It's unlikely, but it can happen.
                            Think about his ballymore price on the exchange. Would be very attractive to lay.
                            80% of all bets on the ballymore through all bookmarking outlets. Has gone on samcro, from a very early stage.

                            Jusy trying to save people money. Aslong as they're aware that 10/1 they're taking is fraught with danger and literally should be written off as soon as that bets placed. . then it's not an issue.
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                            • Originally posted by darlojim View Post
                              Anyone think there's a bit of value in Real Steel in the Deloitte? He was badly outpaced last time before being hustled along quickly to make up the ground down the back. Coming to the last yes Sharjah did look the more likely winner but everyone knows how Patrick Mullins sit quiet as long as he can do as seen in many of his bumper rides. The way Townend reacted after the fall made me feel asif he a little bit left to go at I'm not sure it may just be me but surely there wasn't going to be a massive amount between them to justify the difference in odds?
                              Townend has elected to ride Sharjah this time although it has to be remembered that Patrick won the Deloitte last year on a 'reject'.

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                              • Originally posted by Scooby91 View Post
                                Think about his ballymore price on the exchange. Would be very attractive to lay.
                                80% of all bets on the ballymore through all bookmarking outlets. Has gone on samcro, from a very early stage.

                                Jusy trying to save people money. Aslong as they're aware that 10/1 they're taking is fraught with danger and literally should be written off as soon as that bets placed. . then it's not an issue.
                                Talking of the exchanges, I see Samcro has taken a walk in the market for this race now. 12.5 currently, was down to 8.4, so a fair drift.

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