Cheltenham 2017 Antepost Bets

[Kevloaf]

I think you said a few weeks back that douvan may put on a show .... even more so now?

Altior was ahead at the last and put 8l between himself and Min .... if yorkhill doesn't turn up ... I think it's a good bet myself. Nico isn't flashy either ... he'll be ridden to the line .... ruby doesn't mess around at Chelt either and if he was to be sitting quietly it'll be because he is 10L clear?

[jono]

Yeah I think (and hope) he'll put on a show. There's no need to mind the horse in the race. There's also a few mentions that he is at his 'least impressive' around the track too which I think they'll want to put right.

Nico is quite a bullish when it comes to Altior too. You could imagine him being very keen to lay down a marker in the 2mile chase division on the Tuesday...only for Ruby to follow that up on Douvan on the Wednesday

[Morning Glory]

Nico just needs to get the job done. Is he definitely back on Altior ?

[Kevloaf]

Nico just needs to get the job done. Is he definitely back on Altior ?

Not definite. I think so though. We'll know this weekend I guess

[Istabraq]

Distance betting is always interesting, most pilots ride horses to the line but there have been several cases of them stroking the horses ears 100 yards out, Sprinter Sacre and Simonsig won their Arkles comfortably without racking up the distance so I think the over can be dangerous.
You have a 1.04/1 double, I'd be inclined to sit on that and cheer regardless of them winning half a track or half a length....

[ComplyOrDie]

Distance betting is always interesting, most pilots ride horses to the line but there have been several cases of them stroking the horses ears 100 yards out, Sprinter Sacre and Simonsig won their Arkles comfortably without racking up the distance so I think the over can be dangerous.
You have a 1.04/1 double, I'd be inclined to sit on that and cheer regardless of them winning half a track or half a length....

I quite agree. I was looking at this double yesterday, certainly one to invest in, the only dangers being the fences they are jumping IMO.

[Kevloaf]

I would hate to lose a bet after having two winners. However I think with the 9/4 price that I'd rather have 4 points at 9/4 than 9 at even ... with these two particular horses....

I have the double just for the wins at 11/1 so I probably shouldn't even be considering this

[Istabraq]

I would hate to lose a bet after having two winners. However I think with the 9/4 price that I'd rather have 4 points at 9/4 than 9 at even ... with these two particular horses....

I have the double just for the wins at 11/1 so I probably shouldn't even be considering this

Did anyone play thr over 5.5l Thistlecrack winning the King George ?
Tom Scu waving to the family and cuddling the horse for the final 150 yards bery costly....

[ryanh97]

Did anyone play thr over 5.5l Thistlecrack winning the King George ?
Tom Scu waving to the family and cuddling the horse for the final 150 yards bery costly....

I know someone on facebook who did - he wasn't very happy at all

[ComplyOrDie]

Did anyone play thr over 5.5l Thistlecrack winning the King George ?
Tom Scu waving to the family and cuddling the horse for the final 150 yards bery costly....

And this is why I never bet distances.

The jockeys job is to have that horses head in front at the line whether it be a nose or 50 lengths, the distance is irrelevant to them, as long as they win that is all that matters and rightly so. Gambling is hard enough at the best of times, to add extra hurdles (excuse the pun) is just asking for trouble IMO.

The bookmakers clearly make money from these type of bets otherwise they wouldn't be on offer.

[Istabraq]

And the other thing that betting distance overs needs is fallers, and do we really want to cheer on horses falling with potentially fatal outcomes ?

[Kevloaf]

And the other thing that betting distance overs needs is fallers, and do we really want to cheer on horses falling with potentially fatal outcomes ?

Difference between cheering something on and making money - if anyone is cheering at a horse falling they shouldn't be involved in the sport.

I think CorD is right, that in general these are losing bets.

Infact, WH are actively offering a boost for a fav that wins by 5L you get a free bet I think.... "High 5" is it? Must be a money spinner for them with the same principles a being discussed.


All that said, I still think 9/4 is a fair price for it

[MrMcGoldrick]

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[Istabraq]

Is Zabana heading for Ryanair?

[Can't Catch Me]

I've decided to have my first big double today.

Airlie Beach in the Mares Novice at 3/1
Unowhatimeanharry in the Stayers at 6/4

So 9/1 the double. Think these two could end up nearer Evs on the day, especially once WPM removes a few from the Mares Novice and Ruby is declared aboard AB.