Main FJ festival yankee - owner charlie

[Istabraq]

Deadline for final yankee selection Sunday 11 March.
Get discussing...

 

[charlie]

Cheers Ista. Hello everyone. Big fan of the FJ forum - really looking forward to this!

I'l follow the contributions on each of the individual days closely.

With 4 days, hundreds of horses and plenty of very shrewd minds on here, I'd like to think we can veer away from the shorties/bankers on this one, but will obviously leave it for fellow FJ'ers to discuss.

 

[Hurricane fly]

Surely no forum Yankee would be complete without Cause of Causes?

 

[charlie]

Surely no forum Yankee would be complete without Cause of Causes?

He has loads of supporters doesn't he. Going off the XC thread:

Kevloaf
Vautour
Star Of A Gunner
ryanh97
CauseofCauses (shocker)
KingSprinterSacre
FaugheenTheMachine
Garrison Savannah
Rhinestone_Cowboy
ComplyOrDie
Faugheen_Machine
Leman14
donka
MTR
Istabraq
Geordieboy83
Robbante

 

[Kevloaf]

Depends what price horses are on Sunday 11th I suppose!

I did this one last year charlie and wanted to give "us" good chances of winners... and went for the what I considered the "most solid" each day...(from the other four yankees obviously)

Yanworth flopped - I know I had a big part in that one being selected too.
Neon Wolf I am gutted about... but ultimately lost.
Yorkhill obliged at less than 2/1
Defi Du Seuil won, despite me being keener on Charli Parcs

Despite having two winners and a nose 2nd, we didn't get a profit.... if I had my go again, I'd perhaps look at bigger priced horses than I did.

 

[Middle_Of_March]

He has loads of supporters doesn't he. Going off the XC thread:

Kevloaf
Vautour
Star Of A Gunner
ryanh97
CauseofCauses (shocker)
KingSprinterSacre
FaugheenTheMachine
Garrison Savannah
Rhinestone_Cowboy
ComplyOrDie
Faugheen_Machine
Leman14
donka
MTR
Istabraq
Geordieboy83
Robbante

For what it’s worth, I’m another on cause of causes antepost.

He’s just the kind of horse that everyone loves because he runs his best races on the biggest occasions every year

 

[jonthehammer]

Massive CoC fan myself and I think he will win.

 

[charlie]

Depends what price horses are on Sunday 11th I suppose!

I did this one last year charlie and wanted to give "us" good chances of winners... and went for the what I considered the "most solid" each day...(from the other four yankees obviously)

Yanworth flopped - I know I had a big part in that one being selected too.
Neon Wolf I am gutted about... but ultimately lost.
Yorkhill obliged at less than 2/1
Defi Du Seuil won, despite me being keener on Charli Parcs

Despite having two winners and a nose 2nd, we didn't get a profit.... if I had my go again, I'd perhaps look at bigger priced horses than I did.

Cheers Kev. Hopefully late support for JO/Tiger Roll would see us getting a decent price on the 11th for COC.

Even at this early stage COC is looking likely to be included in the Forum Yankee. Adding MOM and Jonthehammer to the 'COC fan club', we are 20+ strong in number which looks like fairly unanimous support

 

[jkite16]

I have two at handsome prices in some of the bigger fields:

Martin Pipe - Off You Go.
Grand Annual - Don't Touch It.

Been following both of these quite closely over the past few months and been impressed with Off You Go.

Don't Touch It is very much a spring horse and good ground dependant, so hopefully he gets that come March!

I wouldn't suggest getting involved until the weights are out and target all but confirmed, but i'd imagine these are where they are being aimed and should be there or thereabouts at the turn!

 

[archie]

At the current prices and on what Gordon has said, I'd go with Tiger Roll over Cause Of Causes every time.

 

[ComplyOrDie]

I have two at handsome prices in some of the bigger fields:

Martin Pipe - Off You Go.
Grand Annual - Don't Touch It.

Been following both of these quite closely over the past few months and been impressed with Off You Go.

Don't Touch It is very much a spring horse and good ground dependant, so hopefully he gets that come March!

I wouldn't suggest getting involved until the weights are out and target all but confirmed, but i'd imagine these are where they are being aimed and should be there or thereabouts at the turn!

Like both of these too!

 

[loveracing]

Is it worth having an ew and a win yankee here because there will be more selections available and prices may vary?

 

[ComplyOrDie]

Cheers Kev. Hopefully late support for JO/Tiger Roll would see us getting a decent price on the 11th for COC.

Even at this early stage COC is looking likely to be included in the Forum Yankee. Adding MOM and Jonthehammer to the 'COC fan club', we are 20+ strong in number which looks like fairly unanimous support

I'd be keen to avoid COC at the current prices though.

Both Josies Orders and Tiger Roll will be no pushovers, there are other dangers too, but just to go over it again:

COC - Course form - 3rd, 7th, 2nd, 1st, 1st, 5th, 1st
Festival form - 7th, 2nd, 1st, 1st, 1st
Cross Country - 5th, 1st

JO - Course form - 22nd, 1st, 1st, 1st, 3rd
Festival form - 22nd, 1st
Cross Country - U, 1st, 1st, 1st, 1st, 3rd, 2nd

Tiger Roll - Course form - 1st, 1st, 13th, 3rd, 1st, 5th
Festival form - 1st, 13th, 1st
Cross Country - 5th

I am unsure what sort of stats there are for runs between races for this particular race but Tiger Roll is coming back off a layoff of 90+ days, and personally, although I suspect him to run a fair race, do feel this could be more a GN prep over anything else.

I stated somewhere very early on last year that I would split stakes between COC & JO, and tbh that is still how I see this race.

 

[Middle_Of_March]

I suppose I just have to mention Burning Ambition.


NAP of the festival.

 

[TheEagleHasLanded]

Buveur D'Air to win by 8+ lengths lol

 

[Kevloaf]

I'd be keen to avoid COC at the current prices though.

Both Josies Orders and Tiger Roll will be no pushovers, there are other dangers too, but just to go over it again:

COC - Course form - 3rd, 7th, 2nd, 1st, 1st, 5th, 1st
Festival form - 7th, 2nd, 1st, 1st, 1st
Cross Country - 5th, 1st

JO - Course form - 22nd, 1st, 1st, 1st, 3rd
Festival form - 22nd, 1st
Cross Country - U, 1st, 1st, 1st, 1st, 3rd, 2nd

Tiger Roll - Course form - 1st, 1st, 13th, 3rd, 1st, 5th
Festival form - 1st, 13th, 1st
Cross Country - 5th

I am unsure what sort of stats there are for runs between races for this particular race but Tiger Roll is coming back off a layoff of 90+ days, and personally, although I suspect him to run a fair race, do feel this could be more a GN prep over anything else.

I stated somewhere very early on last year that I would split stakes between COC & JO, and tbh that is still how I see this race.

On a line through Auvergnat you can't see JO and COC as equals? Plus Josies Orders "festival 1st" was actually a 2nd?
They'd be my negatives for him albeit I don't disagree with what you're saying overall.

 

[ComplyOrDie]

On a line through Auvergnat you can't see JO and COC as equals? Plus Josies Orders "festival 1st" was actually a 2nd?
They'd be my negatives for him albeit I don't disagree with what you're saying overall.

I see JO as COC biggest danger is what I am saying Kev, that said, it probably isn't rocket science given the market prices! Unsure about Tiger Roll though.

Think the money for JO last couple of weeks was reminiscent of the money that came for COC last season for this race. It wouldn't surprise me if JO beat COC, but I, personally, am still very much behind COC as my number 1 for this race.

 

[charlie]

Is it worth having an ew and a win yankee here because there will be more selections available and prices may vary?

Good question. Lets see what people on the forum think

 

[Istabraq]

Personally I wouldn't be using Auvergnat as a yardstick, rarely completes a XC race without either hitting the deck or making mistake(s) that could see his part company with his pilot, when he puts it all together he's a serious player in this sphere but he's probably only every done that twice so reading form literally may not stack up...

 

[jono]

He has loads of supporters doesn't he. Going off the XC thread:

Kevloaf
Vautour
Star Of A Gunner
ryanh97
CauseofCauses (shocker)
KingSprinterSacre
FaugheenTheMachine
Garrison Savannah
Rhinestone_Cowboy
ComplyOrDie
Faugheen_Machine
Leman14
donka
MTR
Istabraq
Geordieboy83
Robbante

Ahem...I think you'll find a certain post by me on the 19th March 2017 on p3 of the antepost 2018 bets stating this...

Cause of Causes - Cross Country - 10/1

Completely got him wrong this race. 'Only 9' which compared to others in the division is young / on par. Josies Orders was my best fancy of the festival last year before getting injured but at the same age, with injury to comeback from i'm wary of his chances at least for now and there's a 0% reason why you'd back JO until next Winter before the Cross Country races kick in. Auvergnant the other for Bolger will improve being young for this sphere but I see nothing from this years race to be able to beat CoC again. Can see Elliott keeping him to these races for the next 2-3 years alongside nationals. Don't see any other race they'd go for at the festival and his festival record is ridiculous. Josies Orders was 4/1 after last years race. Big price for me...

Before all you lot jumped on the bandwagon...:highly_amused: