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2026 Novice Hurdlers
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Lobos
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Sortudo for the big shock lol
Wishful thinking on my part. I'm already resigned to Pat
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….W Mullins;
Leader d'Allier won five out of six bumpers in France which means he is a very experienced racehorse and he had all his schooling done before we bought him and was ready to run over hurdles. I felt he needed the run at Leopardstown the first day and he came on an awful lot between his first and second runs in Ireland; with his racing experience and the fact that he improved so much between his two runs, we felt he had plenty of experience and scope to tackle the Supreme Novices' Hurdle and at around 12/1, he must be huge each-way value in probably what is one of the toughest races of The Festival.
He won his maiden hurdle and what I liked about him was that he won so far and Mark [Walsh] said to me when he got down off him after the race that he thought he was only going an ordinary speed and when he looked behind, he had horses spread out all over the place which means to me that he was doing it so much at his ease. He comes out of Donnchadh Doyle's point-to-pointing yard where he would have gained a lot of experience jumping and with what looks like a very high cruising speed and all that experience gained being presented for point-to-pointing, he, on his performance in Fairyhouse, looks like he has all the attributes that might be needed in the Supreme Novices' Hurdle.
Too Bossy for Us;
Harry Cobden was mad about this horse when he got off him in the Triumph Hurdle last year and he just thought he needed the run. He's a very experienced racehorse after having 11 runs on the Flat, and he showed he's able to jump very well, being seventh in the Triumph Hurdle, having his first run and winning very easily in Punchestown for Paul Townend which was his last start. He's also one at a big price that has an each-way chance.
13:20 Leader d'Allier (Sky Bet Supreme Novices' Hurdle)
Leader d'Allier won five out of six bumpers in France which means he is a very experienced racehorse and he had all his schooling done before we bought him and was ready to run over hurdles. I felt he needed the run at Leopardstown the first day and he came on an awful lot between his first and second runs in Ireland; with his racing experience and the fact that he improved so much between his two runs, we felt he had plenty of experience and scope to tackle the Supreme Novices' Hurdle and at around 12/1, he must be huge each-way value in probably what is one of the toughest races of The Festival.
13:20 Mighty Park (Sky Bet Supreme Novices' Hurdle)
He won his maiden hurdle and what I liked about him was that he won so far and Mark [Walsh] said to me when he got down off him after the race that he thought he was only going an ordinary speed and when he looked behind, he had horses spread out all over the place which means to me that he was doing it so much at his ease. He comes out of Donnchadh Doyle's point-to-pointing yard where he would have gained a lot of experience jumping and with what looks like a very high cruising speed and all that experience gained being presented for point-to-pointing, he, on his performance in Fairyhouse, looks like he has all the attributes that might be needed in the Supreme Novices' Hurdle.
Too Bossy for Us;
Harry Cobden was mad about this horse when he got off him in the Triumph Hurdle last year and he just thought he needed the run. He's a very experienced racehorse after having 11 runs on the Flat, and he showed he's able to jump very well, being seventh in the Triumph Hurdle, having his first run and winning very easily in Punchestown for Paul Townend which was his last start. He's also one at a big price that has an each-way chance.
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Any info at all out there on Park Princess? I noticed on Saxon's 10 Year Analysis that she's the 4th highest rated animal in the race, due to her recent 21L romp at Doncaster. She passed me by to be honest and I can't recall a single mention of her in this thread, and a forum search didnt bring back anything either (unless im doing it wrong...).
Leaving discussion of whether you believe her rating aside, she seems to be a general 50/1 with the bookies, but is available for a few pounds at 350/1 on the exchange which would be a crazy price for the 4th highest rated horse in the race, so would have to assume that means she won't go to the race, but can't find any info either way to confirm..?
Leaving discussion of whether you believe her rating aside, she seems to be a general 50/1 with the bookies, but is available for a few pounds at 350/1 on the exchange which would be a crazy price for the 4th highest rated horse in the race, so would have to assume that means she won't go to the race, but can't find any info either way to confirm..?
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The rating probably is dubious and she got it over an extended 3m. Beat convincingly in the Jayne Seymour and I doubt she’s got the speed required for this race to get into position in the last half mile.
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Yes, I doubt shes on anyone's serious shortlist, but if ever there was a race to back something you dont particularly fancy at an outrageous price, the Spud race would be it, wouldn't it? If the price is outrageous enough...
Question was more if anyone had any intel of if she lines up...
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Barry Connell, trainer of Eachtotheirown
I'm hoping he'll be competitive and he has plenty of experience, which will stand to him. It looks like a very good race, but I don't think he'll be out of place. I'd be disappointed if we're not there jumping the last and he's not in the first three or four. I don't think there's a wild pile between him and William Munny [finished second] last year; both by Westerner and with similar profiles. He's a quick horse. We missed the DRF, which I'm glad about, and he's coming right. He had to make his own running at Thurles in a handicap and he's not a front-runner. There are a few in there with not a lot of experience, while he's run in a maiden hurdle, a Graded race and a handicap.
I'm hoping he'll be competitive and he has plenty of experience, which will stand to him. It looks like a very good race, but I don't think he'll be out of place. I'd be disappointed if we're not there jumping the last and he's not in the first three or four. I don't think there's a wild pile between him and William Munny [finished second] last year; both by Westerner and with similar profiles. He's a quick horse. We missed the DRF, which I'm glad about, and he's coming right. He had to make his own running at Thurles in a handicap and he's not a front-runner. There are a few in there with not a lot of experience, while he's run in a maiden hurdle, a Graded race and a handicap.
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For some reason I thought she was in the Mares novice.
The race usually goes to those with form over 2m7+. Gaultstats has 11 of last 15 winners qualifying. Not too many this year qualify at the moment especially if you then look at listed level+ form.
Might get 4+ places after decs so one to keep an eye on.
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The market correction was inevitable really
3/1 was an appalling price
He should be in the 8/1-12/1 range minimum
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On the 2 market leaders can anyone tell me the last winner of the Supreme to run in a bumper and not win one?
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Nicholls only had 9 bumper winners last year and only has 1 so far this year, is it possible he's just not pushing the horses hard at a young age?
Anyway back to my main point.
Kopek won at Fairyhouse, Slade Steel at Punchestown, Marine won at Punchestown & Killarney, Appreciate it won 2 bumpers, Shiskin oozed class in his Kempton bumper, Summerville boy also won in Killarney, Altior won at Market Rasen before being beat in 2 better bumpers, CF obvs won the Champion Bumper, Cinders won at Fontwell & Southwell, Al Ferof won at Fairyhouse before moving to Nicholls, Menorah won at Naas before moving to Hobbs, Go Native won at Punchestown, Cee Bee won at Fairyhouse, Noland won at Wincanton, Brave Inca won at Fairyhouse & Navan, BIF won at Naas & Chelt, Like a butterfly won 3, Tourist Attraction won twice at Punchestown, Artic Kinsman won at Ascot, Montelado won the champion, Destriero won at leop, Forest Sun won at Ascot & Sandown.
So there you go back to 1988 and no such example and the front 2 in the market couldn't manage it.
What the consensus on this? Doesn't matter or a red flag.
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Nicholls only had 9 bumper winners last year and only has 1 so far this year, is it possible he's just not pushing the horses hard at a young age?
Anyway back to my main point.
Kopek won at Fairyhouse, Slade Steel at Punchestown, Marine won at Punchestown & Killarney, Appreciate it won 2 bumpers, Shiskin oozed class in his Kempton bumper, Summerville boy also won in Killarney, Altior won at Market Rasen before being beat in 2 better bumpers, CF obvs won the Champion Bumper, Cinders won at Fontwell & Southwell, Al Ferof won at Fairyhouse before moving to Nicholls, Menorah won at Naas before moving to Hobbs, Go Native won at Punchestown, Cee Bee won at Fairyhouse, Noland won at Wincanton, Brave Inca won at Fairyhouse & Navan, BIF won at Naas & Chelt, Like a butterfly won 3, Tourist Attraction won twice at Punchestown, Artic Kinsman won at Ascot, Montelado won the champion, Destriero won at leop, Forest Sun won at Ascot & Sandown.
So there you go back to 1988 and no such example and the front 2 in the market couldn't manage it.
What the consensus on this? Doesn't matter or a red flag.
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Interesting research and really good post. Personally I wouldn’t be at all concerned where talk the talk is concerned. Firstly he only ran in one bumper and it was as a 4yo against a number of older horses. He ran keen and was pretty much the least experienced horse in the race and still managed to finish ahead of an older horse that had had a previous run and is now rated 132. Im not sure if he then had a setback of some kind or they had seen all they needed to see but I’m sure it’s no coincidence that he was subsequently moved to the yard he now finds himself in.