Grand Annual 2018

[The Beast]

Anyone like Tombstone for this? 25/1 sounds fair or 14/1 nrnb... last year he ran a stinker in the Coral Cup but i think this is more his distance & I can not see him running in the JLT...

He was backed of the boards last year on the day prior to that poor run in Coral Cup ,almost as defeat was impossible to envisage.

Ive been watching him all season and case could be made for any trip i guess ,personally I think a fast run 2m also i reckon he improving steadily and has been well placed this season by GE with Cheltenham in mind.

I like his profile and ive backed him accordingly for this (hope i am right) , cant see any other Giggi nag coming here and possible plotted up for this.

 

[JackieMoon33]

Anyone like Tombstone for this? 25/1 sounds fair or 14/1 nrnb... last year he ran a stinker in the Coral Cup but i think this is more his distance & I can not see him running in the JLT...

Currently rated 147 in Ireland so he won't fit any ratings trends. Also, the way he's been campaigned with a grade 3 win and two seconds in grade 2 races, I'm not sure he's been plotted in any way.

 

[Vanilla]

I been backing Ordinary World from odds of 20/1 nrnb for the GA.

He his currently 14/1 for the GA and 50/1 for the CC.

He was running a fine race last weekend when he belted a fence which ended his challenge.

He returned lame.

If he lines up in the GA he will have a mighty chance to win.

 

[Viking Flagship]

Following on from my original post in this and it was good to see Diego Du Charmil back on the course at the weekend. I have to say I'm thrilled with his mark of 143 and whilst I haven't heard Nicholls say so directly, I feel certain this will be the aim. Did nothing at the weekend to put me off on ground he'd have hated and I'm still keen on him.

 

[doctorwu]

I been backing Ordinary World from odds of 20/1 nrnb for the GA.

He his currently 14/1 for the GA and 50/1 for the CC.

He was running a fine race last weekend when he belted a fence which ended his challenge.



He returned lame.

If he lines up in the GA he will have a mighty chance to win.

Im very keen on him but He's rated 149. He needs to be in the 138-147 bracket for this.

 

[Bayoffreedom]

Im very keen on him but He's rated 149. He needs to be in the 138-147 bracket for this.

Unfortunately, and shockingly, he has been raised to 155 after finishing 30l behind Min!

Ordinary World 2010 155

 

[Faugheen_Machine]

Unfortunately, and shockingly, he has been raised to 155 after finishing 30l behind Min!

Ordinary World 2010 155

They'll probably have to go for the Champion Chase now, unless Phil does the unthinkable and gives him a lower rating.

 

[Istabraq]

Unfortunately, and shockingly, he has been raised to 155 after finishing 30l behind Min!

Ordinary World 2010 155

No wonder graded races attract small fields.
I used to cringe at the Hurricane Fly's and Faugheens winning hack canters at 1/12 but what incentive is there if your horse collects 4k for getting dicked out of sight by a top table animal and you get raised more than you would for winning a 15k handicap.
I am stunned by that new mark, another case of racing shooting itself in its' foot....

 

[Garrison Savannah]

Can get 60/1 with Ladbrokes on Ordinary World for the Champion Chase. Every smart person says never bet EW on a horse that has no chance of winning....i’m not smart and in a race that will cut up I think that might just be a bet I might make.

 

[billymag]

Agree about Diego Du Charmil and he has stayed on 143 and looks to have a perfect profile for a race like this.

 

[Faugheen_Machine]

Agree about Diego Du Charmil and he has stayed on 143 and looks to have a perfect profile for a race like this.

Would he not be heading for the novice handicap chase on day one? I just assumed that would be his target.

 

[Istabraq]

Can get 60/1 with Ladbrokes on Ordinary World for the Champion Chase. Every smart person says never bet EW on a horse that has no chance of winning....i’m not smart and in a race that will cut up I think that might just be a bet I might make.

Agree, you currently get 3 places but there could easily be only 6/7 that line up, your 60/1 3 places would then look very smart.
I might also consider the w/o Altior market

 

[Al Ferof]

Can’t even think about antepost on this race guys- to me it’s just a fun bet after the top races earlier in the day. Anyone else similar??

 

[Can't Catch Me]

Would he not be heading for the novice handicap chase on day one? I just assumed that would be his target.

Hope not FM as I'm on him for this race too. He looks an out an out two miler to me and considering he's never run over 2m4f, nor does he appear to want it, I personally can't see why they would step him up in the trip for the first time in the Novice Handicap?

 

[Vanilla]

Unfortunately, and shockingly, he has been raised to 155 after finishing 30l behind Min!

Ordinary World 2010 155

Unfortunately our handicapper has seen that OW was running a cracking race against Min.
No harm done, but it's back to the drawing board.

 

[ComplyOrDie]

Pretty obvious bet based on the betting, but Theinval looks to have been laid out for this.

Run his best race this season 2 runs back over 2m at Newbury, which wouldn't have suited as he's a good finisher over 2m and Newbury is a flat track, but still got up for a never nearer 3rd.

2 of his other 3 runs this season have been over an inadequate trip, but both at Cheltenham, I presume to get his rating back down, and it worked, he's now back down to the same rating as last season, 141, and another year older.

10/1 and favourite hardly required rocket science to put this one forward, but certainly one I am keen on having just started to make my way through the handicaps.

 

[Middle_Of_March]

Pretty obvious bet based on the betting, but Theinval looks to have been laid out for this.

Run his best race this season 2 runs back over 2m at Newbury, which wouldn't have suited as he's a good finisher over 2m and Newbury is a flat track, but still got up for a never nearer 3rd.

2 of his other 3 runs this season have been over an inadequate trip, but both at Cheltenham, I presume to get his rating back down, and it worked, he's now back down to the same rating as last season, 141, and another year older.

10/1 and favourite hardly required rocket science to put this one forward, but certainly one I am keen on having just started to make my way through the handicaps.

It’s the worst kept secret in racing that he’s been laid out for this.

I don’t play the handicaps at Cheltenham antepost but I like Theinval for sure.

 

[billymag]

Diego just looks more likely for a race at 2 miles to me, i havent heard connections say otherwise but with the NRNB and price of 20/1 I thought hes worth a go (1pt win), I think he will start nearer to 10/1 on day if he goes here.

 

[Kevloaf]

Interesting to see in Henderson’s blog today that if he had to have an ante-post bet for Cheltenham he’d back Theinval for this - still 33s with Betfair (if they’ll let you have more than 33p!) :grumpy:

I might actually take that 3rd last year at 16/1

Best form to me is over 2m on better ground and he's only 3 lbs higher now than last year.... looks like they've tried to get that down since Aintree too....

25/1 is best price now.... anyone interested?

I can't stop going back to his run at Ayr in April last year on good (g-s) ground:

1. Cloudy Dream - now rated 158
2. Theinval - now rated 141
3. Oldgrangewood - now rated 148
4. Clan des Obeaux - now rated 155
PU. Flying Angel - now rated 152

That's good, as I backed him before waiting for a reponse :highly_amused:

I liked the 2nd behind Double W's as well, that you'd put up for the Close Brothers I think? Or was it for Aintree afterwards when he won?

Pretty obvious bet based on the betting, but Theinval looks to have been laid out for this.

Run his best race this season 2 runs back over 2m at Newbury, which wouldn't have suited as he's a good finisher over 2m and Newbury is a flat track, but still got up for a never nearer 3rd.

2 of his other 3 runs this season have been over an inadequate trip, but both at Cheltenham, I presume to get his rating back down, and it worked, he's now back down to the same rating as last season, 141, and another year older.

10/1 and favourite hardly required rocket science to put this one forward, but certainly one I am keen on having just started to make my way through the handicaps.

It’s the worst kept secret in racing that he’s been laid out for this.

I don’t play the handicaps at Cheltenham antepost but I like Theinval for sure.

Theinval highlighted by Cashew King a earlier on... certainly a good shout IMO, and is my only bet in the race so far.

 

[James Joseph]

I think it was interesting that Henderson took Thienval for a gallop yesterday with Bouvier Dair and Might Bite. Theinvals price has been noticeably contracting in the last few days. Henderson has an emotional connection with this race so it might be prudent to follow the advice of Comply and add Thienval to your portfolio's.