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Arkle 2018

If Saturnas puts in an impressive display tomorrow he might shorten from the 33/1 NRNB available for the Arkle?

He did get beaten by Avenir D'Une Vie 2L on chase debut, and ADV was beaten by Demi Sang for Mullins LTO by 1L - but if he comes on for the run he's got some good hurdles form.

He was a hot fav in the Deloitte in Feb and only 1 run since.

I can see Ruby on Footpad and Townend on Saturnas in the Arkle. I'm half tempted to have a speculative punt at 33/1 NRNB each way as tomorrow he's beating horses that probably need further so he might look quite impressive and shorten...

then again, an each way bet isn't that much value if you don't think they can win!
 
Kevloaf said:
If Saturnas puts in an impressive display tomorrow he might shorten from the 33/1 NRNB available for the Arkle?

He did get beaten by Avenir D'Une Vie 2L on chase debut, and ADV was beaten by Demi Sang for Mullins LTO by 1L - but if he comes on for the run he's got some good hurdles form.

He was a hot fav in the Deloitte in Feb and only 1 run since.

I can see Ruby on Footpad and Townend on Saturnas in the Arkle. I'm half tempted to have a speculative punt at 33/1 NRNB each way as tomorrow he's beating horses that probably need further so he might look quite impressive and shorten...

then again, an each way bet isn't that much value if you don't think they can win!
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I think Saturn's wants further himself tbh. But would be a little down the pecking order for the jlt.
 
Petit Mouchoir expected to run in the Irish Arkle according to Henry De Bromhead, will be good to see him back especially if Footpad runs as well.

Seems a long time ago now PM was the talk of this thread!
 
I think the winner of the irish arkle will win at cheltenham, be interesting to see how they are both ridden as they both seem to like to bowl along.. expect FP to step on the gas 5f out and say catch me if you can.

May well be worth a bet for PM in the arkle before he runs in the irish equivilant because i doubt he will be that price on the day and money back if he doesnt turn up
 
darlojim said:
I think the winner of the irish arkle will win at cheltenham, be interesting to see how they are both ridden as they both seem to like to bowl along.. expect FP to step on the gas 5f out and say catch me if you can.

May well be worth a bet for PM in the arkle before he runs in the irish equivilant because i doubt he will be that price on the day and money back if he doesnt turn up
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Makes sense Jim , PM finishes couple lengths adrift of Footpad , connections would be happy with this being first run back and improvement likely so taking price now with the concession makes sense.
 
The most interesting race is at Ascot this weekend.

If Brain Power beats UDS, what price does he then become?
 
Innoko said:
The most interesting race is at Ascot this weekend.

If Brain Power beats UDS, what price does he then become?
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Somewhere simular to sceau royal around the 6/1 mark id have thought.

Soft ground atm.
 
Innoko said:
The most interesting race is at Ascot this weekend.

If Brain Power beats UDS, what price does he then become?
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I'd guess they'd make him a clear 2nd fav... but it won't happen so don't trouble yourself :devilish:
 
100/1 poke Saint Calvados runs tomorrow, 6/4 fav in a 4 runner race at Newbury

War Sound is the outsider of the field and has been beaten 6.5L by River Wylde, 28L by Brain Power and 19L by Rather Be
[hopefully SC beats him by 10L+]

Tree of Liberty is 2nd fav tomorrow... and won well on chase debut, only has a rating of 130 though.
[hopefully Kerry Lee's horse also isn't too close with that OR]

Jameson is the other runner - First time running at this distance, all other runs have been 20f over fences
[Not a bad horse, but SC will want to be beating him easily to make it in to Arkle company]

I will back this horse tomorrow, and am hoping for an impressive win.... giving them all weight!

Anything less than impressive the Arkle dream is over... but at 100/1 I don't care :devilish:

Oddschecker feel like that too:

There was an awful lot to like about the chasing debut of SAINT CALVADOS as he jumped with aplomb over C&D at the back end of last month before striding clear with purpose to beat Remiluc by nine lengths. A 4lb rise could underestimate Harry Whittington's gelding and he looks the type to potentially prove capable of aiming higher than handicaps.

and Timeform...


Useful form over hurdles in France, landing trio of juvenile events last term, and made a successful British/chasing debut with an all-the-way win over C&D last month. Exciting prospect.

and he's the Racing Post Nap...

There may have been only two finishers when SAINT CALVADOS (nap) made a winning British/chase debut over C&D last month, but he did it in impressive fashion and there could be plenty more to come from this ex-French 5yo, who has won four of his five starts. Tree Of Liberty showed improved form when an easy winner on his recent chase/stable debut and he is feared most, while Jameson can run his usual solid race.
 
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Kevloaf said:
I'd guess they'd make him a clear 2nd fav... but it won't happen so don't trouble yourself :devilish:
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It could happen.

And it would then be the strongest piece of form in the race.
 
Innoko said:
It could happen.

And it would then be the strongest piece of form in the race.
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But he doesn't go left handed:devilish: I hope he wins on Saturday and turns up at Cheltenham a short price. I'll probably place lay him.
 
Innoko said:
It could happen.

And it would then be the strongest piece of form in the race.
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Thats very arguable. But I can certainly see why it would be interpreted like that
 
Innoko said:
I suspected you would. You don't seem the argumentative type. :highly_amused:
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:highly_amused: I'm aware it looks like that.
But I genuinely believe 100% in my own judgement. I obviously take on opinions from others. As much as im passionate about the sporting aspect. I have to make my own living.
 
Scooby91 said:
:highly_amused: I'm aware it looks like that.
But I genuinely believe 100% in my own judgement. I obviously take on opinions from others. As much as im passionate about the sporting aspect. I have to make my own living.
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Absolutely.

It's all about opinions. And if you can't stand up for what you believe to be correct then there isn't much point in a forum.

For the record and what its worth. I believe Sharjah will go Ballymore and Getabird Supreme.

I enjoyed reading the debate when I woke this morning. :)
 
Cheers Kev for the Saint Calvados heads up. :triumphant:
 
Top shout kev. What do you think the plan is now...one run in a graded race before cheltenham??
 
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