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Close Brothers Novice Handicap Chase 2018

Kevloaf

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Early to start off, but PP and BF have decided to get odds up on all the handicaps and there was one in this I was interested in with his rating....

https://www.oddschecker.com/cheltenham-festival/close-brothers-novice-handicap-chase/winner

Movewiththetimes 33/1 with PP. Can't remember which thread this was discussed in, but this race is 0-145 (increased last year) and MWTT is rated 145.

I thought he MIGHT be put away but I see he has an entry at Chelt over 2m4f on 16th December (Saturday). I'll keep an incredibly close eye on the race, as he might still be good enough for races like the JLT but to me, he'd be a huge player in this on that run behind Finian's Oscar... and 5L behind NHH and Sceau Royal...

Plenty others to consider though....
 
MWTT won't be going UP in the handicap there..... wide all the way :devilish:
 
Kevloaf said:
Early to start off, but PP and BF have decided to get odds up on all the handicaps and there was one in this I was interested in with his rating....

https://www.oddschecker.com/cheltenham-festival/close-brothers-novice-handicap-chase/winner

Movewiththetimes 33/1 with PP. Can't remember which thread this was discussed in, but this race is 0-145 (increased last year) and MWTT is rated 145.

I thought he MIGHT be put away but I see he has an entry at Chelt over 2m4f on 16th December (Saturday). I'll keep an incredibly close eye on the race, as he might still be good enough for races like the JLT but to me, he'd be a huge player in this on that run behind Finian's Oscar... and 5L behind NHH and Sceau Royal...

Plenty others to consider though....
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The 33/1 has gone.... now 14/1!!! :highly_amused:
 
Kevloaf said:
Movewiththetimes 33/1 with PP. Can't remember which thread this was discussed in, but this race is 0-145 (increased last year) and MWTT is rated 145.

I thought he MIGHT be put away but I see he has an entry at Chelt over 2m4f on 16th December (Saturday). I'll keep an incredibly close eye on the race, as he might still be good enough for races like the JLT but to me, he'd be a huge player in this on that run behind Finian's Oscar... and 5L behind NHH and Sceau Royal...

Plenty others to consider though....
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http://www.fatjockey.com/forum/showthread.php?8643-2018-JLT-Novices/page16

I think it's worth pointing out that Coo Star Sivola, who I mentioned in the same point about MWTT, finished in front off level weights in their particular match yesterday. Currently has an OR of 135 (compared to 145 for MWTT) so it might be interesting to see how that changes.
 
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Yes good point archie!

I have just spotted MWTT is 20/1 any race with WH when he is best priced 14/1 for this race.... for anyone that missed the bigger prices perhaps?

Which includes myself despite highlighting the 33/1 :mad:
 
MWTT dropped just 1lb to 144. Coo Star Sivola unchanged on 135!
 
Got a price boost from Hills for MWTT... 21.7/1 any race. Seems fair enough!
 
archie said:
MWTT dropped just 1lb to 144. Coo Star Sivola unchanged on 135!
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Coo Star Sivola likely to be an alright price much much much closer to the time.... odd to not go up at all..... might actually NEED to go up to get in?

Not sure where the improvement would come from though as it seemed to be because of the step UP in trip do you think?
 
I think I'd be waiting for NRNB but I don't see MWTT winning a handicap off a mark in the 140s.
 
archie said:
I think I'd be waiting for NRNB but I don't see MWTT winning a handicap off a mark in the 140s.
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LAst year what was the bottom weight that got in to the race? Was it 139?

I might be completely off the mark there, but when I did back MWTT I had in my head that the handicap was so compressed that him being near the top really wouldn't be a problem compared to years gone by?
 
archie said:
A range of 137 to 142.
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mwtt not going to be 'well handicapped' then regardless.... I think they'll manage to get him dropped a bit yet
 
Just posted this in the wrong thread. Having noted that Movewiththetimes is being plotted up for this race, you would also have to say the same and have some cover on Ballyandy. Mark dropped to 145 i'd be fairly certain this is now the aim. Stingy prices but he has as much chance of MWTT on all known form
 
Robbante said:
Just posted this in the wrong thread. Having noted that Movewiththetimes is being plotted up for this race, you would also have to say the same and have some cover on Ballyandy. Mark dropped to 145 i'd be fairly certain this is now the aim. Stingy prices but he has as much chance of MWTT on all known form
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MWTT has been mentioned from the early posts.... I ended up missing the 33/1 and taking 20/1 (or 22/1 any race) when that was available.

I didn't think about Ballyandy at the time, which is surprising because I agree he'd be interesting. I think because I'd read Ballyhill might be one for this race I didn't think to look!

Coo Star Sivola that I think archie mentioned is 16s NRNB, 20s WH NR and 25s.... that one is certainly on the radar.


The Storyteller 14/1 NRNB... surely that wouldn't be allowed in?
 
Kevloaf said:
MWTT has been mentioned from the early posts.... I ended up missing the 33/1 and taking 20/1 (or 22/1 any race) when that was available.

I didn't think about Ballyandy at the time, which is surprising because I agree he'd be interesting. I think because I'd read Ballyhill might be one for this race I didn't think to look!

Coo Star Sivola that I think archie mentioned is 16s NRNB, 20s WH NR and 25s.... that one is certainly on the radar.


The Storyteller 14/1 NRNB... surely that wouldn't be allowed in?
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Not if he runs this weekend. He'll go very close.

But wouldn't be impossible.
 
Kevloaf said:
MWTT has been mentioned from the early posts.... I ended up missing the 33/1 and taking 20/1 (or 22/1 any race) when that was available.

I didn't think about Ballyandy at the time, which is surprising because I agree he'd be interesting. I think because I'd read Ballyhill might be one for this race I didn't think to look!

Coo Star Sivola that I think archie mentioned is 16s NRNB, 20s WH NR and 25s.... that one is certainly on the radar.


The Storyteller 14/1 NRNB... surely that wouldn't be allowed in?
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The Storyteller is 14s with Hills any race. Added him in earlier in the week as i really rate him wherever he heads
 
Robbante said:
The Storyteller is 14s with Hills any race. Added him in earlier in the week as i really rate him wherever he heads
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Actually I put a pt on at 14s, then when adding him to my spreadsheet realised I already had a pt on him at 16s any race a couple of months ago. Amateur stuff. I'd assume they know what they're doing with him and he'll be plotted up for something... Brown Plate most likely at this stage, even seen the 4 miler mentioned as a possibility as Codd's ride
 
I've added 2 pts on The Storyteller at 16/1 NRNB for this. Very keen and I know Scooby is too.

Not confident he'll get in at all but would be 4/1 at best IMO
 
I can't see Phil letting him in here but a complete no risk bet. Good luck.
 
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