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Supreme Novices 2018
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CH is a must better striker of the ball than JS, he just doesn't have the mental capacity of Jordan.
Im very pleased with that performance today from claimin and I believe he'll improve substantially for some decent ground. I like the unflashy ones, and they often dig it out when it matters.
Claimantakinforgan looked good and 10/1 over priced for the supreme and won't last long I think especially as he looks sure to run over 2 miles at Cheltenham
Looking forward to the future champions novice now, looks a very good race, I think real steel could possibly beat mengli khan and go a strong fav for the supreme. I'd be suprused if anything else finished in front of mengli khan, Either would go short for the supreme.
I hope antey and debuchet both match up against each other and either wins decisively, debuchet has the ability to be in the mix, antey could be anything I'd be assuming he came recommended as they played a few quid for him.
An entry for winter soldier and delirant wouldn't go a miss either starting to get to the business end for the novice hurdles as the quality of the graded races increase.
I hope antey and debuchet both match up against each other and either wins decisively, debuchet has the ability to be in the mix, antey could be anything I'd be assuming he came recommended as they played a few quid for him.
An entry for winter soldier and delirant wouldn't go a miss either starting to get to the business end for the novice hurdles as the quality of the graded races increase.
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Agree with all that Scooby, this market is about to take shape over the next week. Reports are that Real Steel has improved a ton since his debut and we could be seeing a 3/1 shot for the Supreme if either Mengli or Real Steel wins.
Antey could be pretty exciting and people should watch out for him.
Antey could be pretty exciting and people should watch out for him.
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Im hoping Real Steel does the business against MK.
I keep coming back to Debuchet (backed him and western Ryder in the fez bumper) as he's been very solid in the market without having a run due to injury. It was the same in the bumper, very strong in the market which proved to be correct only to get chinned close home. I can see Debuchet doing the same in the Supreme. Im going to take a position on Debuchet this weekend.
I keep coming back to Debuchet (backed him and western Ryder in the fez bumper) as he's been very solid in the market without having a run due to injury. It was the same in the bumper, very strong in the market which proved to be correct only to get chinned close home. I can see Debuchet doing the same in the Supreme. Im going to take a position on Debuchet this weekend.
Looks like Debuchet will be running against Antey for Mullins on Boxing Day 26th
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MK has surprised me time after time this season , I am now converted.Not seen a better hurdler in Ireland , I expect him to win and win well next week.
Here, we spoke to Joe Chambers, Susannah Ricci’s Racing Manager, about their possibles for this season’s Sky Bet Supreme, while getting the latest on the owner's leading lights ahead of the busy festive period.
Hi Joe. What’s the Sky Bet Supreme Novices' horse this year then?
It’s very tough to say if we have any at the moment. At the start of the season we had high hopes that Annamix would be the one, but unfortunately he met with a setback. We’ve decided to wait until next season as he’ll retain his novice status – so maybe he’s the one for the 2019 Sky Bet Supreme. You never know.
As for this season, we have the biggest team of novice hurdlers that we’ve ever had. We’ll learn about which trip is right for them over the coming weeks and months. But there are a handful that could end up being quick enough to run in the Sky Bet Supreme.
One of those would be*Sharjah, a four-year-old by Doctor Dino. He won his maiden well at Gowran at the end of September and then took a step forward at the same track when winning a ‘winners of one’ on November 25, showing a nice turn of foot in a falsely-run race. He holds an entry in the Grade One Paddy Power Future Champions Novice Hurdle at Leopardstown on December 27 and we hope he can continue his good progress. The forecast better ground there may suit also. I think having the extra run under his belt before taking the step up into Graded company will stand him in good stead, rather than going straight from a maiden hurdle. He is also in the Grade One Lawlors Hotel at Naas in the New Year.
Entered in the same race on December 27 is*Getabird*and we think a lot of him, he’s a very exciting horse. We're still finding out about distance with him and, as well as the Paddy Power entry, he’s in a race at Limerick over three miles on December 29 and then the 2m4f Grade One at Naas on January 7. He was very impressive in his bumpers and then won well on his hurdling debut at Punchestown on December 10. We’d expect him to improve from that and if we can keep him in one piece he could be top class.
You said five or six might be sharp enough, what are the others?
Well, they haven’t been seen on a racetrack in Britain or Ireland yet, but hopefully they will be out soon enough and can progress through the ranks.
There’s a horse called*Antey*who came to us from Laurent Viel, who has been a lucrative source for Willie over the years. He has run in two Flat races in France winning over 1m6f in July 2016 and we’re looking forward to getting him started to see if he can put his hand up and be a contender for higher honours. He’ll run in the two mile four-year-old maiden hurdle at Leopardstown on December 26, where the top-class bumper horse Debuchet also lines up, so we will get a good steer as to his level of ability I hope.
There is a four-year-old by Balko called*Deal D’Estruval*who came to us from Guillaume Macaire in France. He’s a half-brother to a good mare of John Quinn’s called Aurora D’Estruval who won a couple of Listed hurdles and was second in a Fighting Fifth. He’s got plenty of experience from France and we’d like to think he can improve upon the form he’s shown to date. He’s got an entry at Limerick on Thursday December 28 and there’s every chance he’ll turn up there, if not shortly after. He is a real chaser in the making but I am hoping he can put his experience from France to use as a novice hurdler first.
Another one we like is a horse called*Francin*who we’ve had for about 18 months. We were going to campaign him last year as a juvenile hurdler but decided to give him time to mature. Hopefully we can see the benefit of that patience when he makes his debut for us which will hopefully be at Leopardstown over Christmas if not soon after. He’s by Air Chief Marshal and we’d like to think he’d be a sharp type. I am looking forward to finally seeing him on the track.
Finally, there’s one you probably will have heard of –*Epicuris. He was a high-class two-year-old for Criquette Head-Maarek, winning the Group One Criterium de Saint-Cloud and the following year he was fifth in the Derby. His form tailed off after that and we bought him at the October horses in training sales last autumn. He holds three entries over Christmas and there’s every chance he’ll take one of them up. He could be a dual purpose horse for us and return to the Flat in time, but we’d hope to make a hurdler of him first. Hopefully Willie can sprinkle his magic and rekindle the spirit that was in him earlier in his career.
Hi Joe. What’s the Sky Bet Supreme Novices' horse this year then?
It’s very tough to say if we have any at the moment. At the start of the season we had high hopes that Annamix would be the one, but unfortunately he met with a setback. We’ve decided to wait until next season as he’ll retain his novice status – so maybe he’s the one for the 2019 Sky Bet Supreme. You never know.
As for this season, we have the biggest team of novice hurdlers that we’ve ever had. We’ll learn about which trip is right for them over the coming weeks and months. But there are a handful that could end up being quick enough to run in the Sky Bet Supreme.
One of those would be*Sharjah, a four-year-old by Doctor Dino. He won his maiden well at Gowran at the end of September and then took a step forward at the same track when winning a ‘winners of one’ on November 25, showing a nice turn of foot in a falsely-run race. He holds an entry in the Grade One Paddy Power Future Champions Novice Hurdle at Leopardstown on December 27 and we hope he can continue his good progress. The forecast better ground there may suit also. I think having the extra run under his belt before taking the step up into Graded company will stand him in good stead, rather than going straight from a maiden hurdle. He is also in the Grade One Lawlors Hotel at Naas in the New Year.
Entered in the same race on December 27 is*Getabird*and we think a lot of him, he’s a very exciting horse. We're still finding out about distance with him and, as well as the Paddy Power entry, he’s in a race at Limerick over three miles on December 29 and then the 2m4f Grade One at Naas on January 7. He was very impressive in his bumpers and then won well on his hurdling debut at Punchestown on December 10. We’d expect him to improve from that and if we can keep him in one piece he could be top class.
You said five or six might be sharp enough, what are the others?
Well, they haven’t been seen on a racetrack in Britain or Ireland yet, but hopefully they will be out soon enough and can progress through the ranks.
There’s a horse called*Antey*who came to us from Laurent Viel, who has been a lucrative source for Willie over the years. He has run in two Flat races in France winning over 1m6f in July 2016 and we’re looking forward to getting him started to see if he can put his hand up and be a contender for higher honours. He’ll run in the two mile four-year-old maiden hurdle at Leopardstown on December 26, where the top-class bumper horse Debuchet also lines up, so we will get a good steer as to his level of ability I hope.
There is a four-year-old by Balko called*Deal D’Estruval*who came to us from Guillaume Macaire in France. He’s a half-brother to a good mare of John Quinn’s called Aurora D’Estruval who won a couple of Listed hurdles and was second in a Fighting Fifth. He’s got plenty of experience from France and we’d like to think he can improve upon the form he’s shown to date. He’s got an entry at Limerick on Thursday December 28 and there’s every chance he’ll turn up there, if not shortly after. He is a real chaser in the making but I am hoping he can put his experience from France to use as a novice hurdler first.
Another one we like is a horse called*Francin*who we’ve had for about 18 months. We were going to campaign him last year as a juvenile hurdler but decided to give him time to mature. Hopefully we can see the benefit of that patience when he makes his debut for us which will hopefully be at Leopardstown over Christmas if not soon after. He’s by Air Chief Marshal and we’d like to think he’d be a sharp type. I am looking forward to finally seeing him on the track.
Finally, there’s one you probably will have heard of –*Epicuris. He was a high-class two-year-old for Criquette Head-Maarek, winning the Group One Criterium de Saint-Cloud and the following year he was fifth in the Derby. His form tailed off after that and we bought him at the October horses in training sales last autumn. He holds three entries over Christmas and there’s every chance he’ll take one of them up. He could be a dual purpose horse for us and return to the Flat in time, but we’d hope to make a hurdler of him first. Hopefully Willie can sprinkle his magic and rekindle the spirit that was in him earlier in his career.
Does anyone think Ruby will end up sat on any of them he mentions?
PP are noticeably shortest about the non Ricci owned Sayar but he has no entries?
Sharjah or Antey are both covered in my book but it sounds like Annamix was quite a bit better, which I think will get forgotten by the day
PP are noticeably shortest about the non Ricci owned Sayar but he has no entries?
Sharjah or Antey are both covered in my book but it sounds like Annamix was quite a bit better, which I think will get forgotten by the day
I noticed that last night but was too drunk to post :highly_amused: .... that'll be my first NRNB return :very_drunk: .... first of many no doubt
Sayyar has had a setback. And no entries. Doesn't mean he won't be back out later though.
I have antey and Francin both at 250.0 down to 150.0 and antey again at 80.0.
I'd back sharjah if he won the future champions but I really don't see it. Iv backed sharjah for the bally more at 3 figures.
Antey really interests me since he was bought nothing to do with his form just the purchase price compared to his form and the vendor. He must have come recommended at his price as they payed more for less flat ability.
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Yeah that's why I'm surprised PP have him at 12s though?
I don't think Mullins has the winner of this race in his yard
Not sure2 big races.
Antey a huge task against debuchet
And real steal v mengli.
Sharjah v mengli.
Any victory would make them the supreme bet for the masses.
I'd be confident real steel better than sharjah but you never know.
My guess would be real steel the supreme fav In a few days. But could be wide of the mark.
That, and he'd be a bigger winner for me than mengli.
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Sharjah has a real shot at winning the future champions for me. On slightly better ground than he’s encountered so far I expect a fair bit of improvement and his flat form is top class
Put this here as he runs over 2 in a very competative race.
"Plans look to be shaping up nicely over Christmas with four runners on Boxing Day.
If The Cap Fits*runs at Kempton in the novices’ hurdle (12.45pm).
He's been going the right way so far this season and I’d like to think he can continue on his upward curve.
He certainly seems to be progressing and improving at home, and hopefully he can do that on the track.
Of all my runners over the festive period, he could prove to be a late Christmas present.
"Plans look to be shaping up nicely over Christmas with four runners on Boxing Day.
If The Cap Fits*runs at Kempton in the novices’ hurdle (12.45pm).
He's been going the right way so far this season and I’d like to think he can continue on his upward curve.
He certainly seems to be progressing and improving at home, and hopefully he can do that on the track.
Of all my runners over the festive period, he could prove to be a late Christmas present.
Oh that's good, taken advantage of the 33/1 NRNB and bit bigger on the exchanges