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2017 Coral Cup

He was very warm about Mick Jazz on a couple of occasions for betfair ones to watch. 12s seems an alright price
 
loveracing said:
He is on a great mark, but I think Consul De Thaix is the best handicapped horse in this race.
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Yeah I like CDT too, had him down for the county initially then no entry, so hope he gets in this now. Peregrine Run is the other one for me, as per the daily Yankee.
 
Kevloaf said:
PRoblem is he is absolutely no price at all!
Never had a chance with this one... has anyone got double figures?

and also, why do we think he is running here?

1. Easier than the County?
2. Will improve for a step up in trip?
3. Gordon thinks he already has one in the County?
4. Something I haven't thought about?
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I got a pony on both races at 12s, but only because it was NRNB, and it looked like he seemed happy with the handicap mark at the BF preview.
 
Kevloaf said:
PRoblem is he is absolutely no price at all!
Never had a chance with this one... has anyone got double figures?

and also, why do we think he is running here?

1. Easier than the County?
2. Will improve for a step up in trip?
3. Gordon thinks he already has one in the County?
4. Something I haven't thought about?
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My free bet would be on no.3. Was exactly what ran through my mind last night.
 
loveracing said:
My free bet would be on no.3. Was exactly what ran through my mind last night.
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If it's because GE has one in the County then presumably it would need to be a Gigginstown horse? There are a few that hit that criteria - Tell Us More and The Game Changer being the most obvious to my eyes.
 
Tell Us More has a lot of potential ? Was disappointing in the Supreme but Paddy Mullins was saying how talented he was...

Mick Jazz isn't Giggi, but I don't think Gigginstown would stand in the way if Elliott told them what was going where in handicap hurdles... they aren't bothered surely?
 
In my cynical mind they pay the bills and would want as many winners as possible. Which of course doesn't necessarily mean that it will happen - was just a thought. Can see an angle on everything as this stage of proceedings!!
 
Hargam is a standout 50/1 for this with Badblokes nrnb. Seems far too big to me.
 
Faugheen_Machine said:
Hargam is a standout 50/1 for this with Badblokes nrnb. Seems far too big to me.
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:encouragement: Maybe a step up in trip will see him in a new light?

Not beyond the realms of possability...as a triumph 3rd? Little bit of course form from 2014 :D
 
Kevloaf said:
:encouragement: Maybe a step up in trip will see him in a new light?

Not beyond the realms of possability...as a triumph 3rd? Little bit of course form from 2014 :D
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How about a Peace and Co, Top Notch and Hargam multiple....... I'm gonna have to do this now I've suggested it! :mad:
 
Is that what they've said Jonny?
 
A quick update for everyone who's on Peregrine Run. I was at the stables today and the horse looks magnificent and the weather watch is on in full force. If the latest forecast is correct it should be no worse than good to soft; faster ground would be ideal but he will run on that ground. If it goes to soft, Peter is adamant he won't be running. He's finished his full work now and will be travelling over on Saturday and the Coral Cup is the plan. The owners have their flights booked for Wednesday morning. My sense is that he will be backed if he gets anything like his ground so taking any 12/1 you can still get might be an idea.
 
Thanks BOF, appreciate the update.

Ground likely to be at its quickest Wednesday, not convinced Claisse has time to put the taps on the old course as there's rain forecast Sunday (by which time I expect the ground will be good), so a dry festival week and Wednesday could be quick ground.
Every chance he waters the new course Mon/Tue if no rain due to fall later in the week...

Just pressed some 12s...
 
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Thanks for the update BoF. Exciting times for all concerned
 
Thanks for the update BoF - the forecast looks promising.
 
He has been mentioned on here before and I know I do like a couple of others in the race (Including what has appeared to be the forum horse in Peregrine Run) also but Old Guard looks an absolute plot for this, he'll get 14lb with Modus from 2 runs back for a 9 3/4 length never nearer 4th, being never nearer you'd have to assume Cheltenham will be right up his street, so expect that form to be turned around.

Nicholls confirmed Old Guard goes here in the Betfair Preview night and in doing so also put him up as his charity bet.

Last season he raced in some of the top 2m races, winning the Greatwood and then the International Hurdle both at Cheltenham, he finally tasted defeat to none other than Faugheen in the Christmas Hurdle, something many horses have tasted in recent years.

They tried him chasing the first 2 races this season and he didn't take to them, however, he came back over hurdles and you'd have to say, on bare form, it hasn't looked very encouraging, BUT, and this is where you can make a claim for him, them first 2 runs were over 2m, he was outpaced in BOTH of them races, suggesting a step up in trip was required, his step up in trip came and guess where it came, Kempton, a truly flat track, not ideal and he finished a 'never nearer' 4th, LTO he raced against the 5/4 favourite for the Stayers hurdle at the festival, personally I think this was purely to increase his stamina as a 2m 5f race at Cheltenham isn't just 2m 5f, you need to stay further, and he seemingly does based on how he has run his last 2 races, he made headway 3 out, around the 2m 5f mark and weakend before the last, suggesting the Coral Cup trip at Cheltenham would be spot on for him.
 
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