Hurricane fly
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Impaire Et Passe for the Ryanair, or waits for Aintree again perhaps?
Wouldn't be going anywhere near impaire for cheltenham myself without cashout.
He's waited for aintree the last two seasons because there apparently wasnt a race for him at cheltenham, but it had led to two wins for him at the track, and the double green were pretty light on cheltenham runners all round this year.
The bowl could easily be his target next year rather than anything at cheltenham.
Wouldn't be going anywhere near impaire for cheltenham myself without cashout.
He's waited for aintree the last two seasons because there apparently wasnt a race for him at cheltenham, but it had led to two wins for him at the track, and the double green were pretty light on cheltenham runners all round this year.
The bowl could easily be his target next year rather than anything at cheltenham.
I'd argue his best performance came at cheltenham over the middle distance trip, i see no reason for them to skip
I think it will always be in the back of their minds that he has a good record at Aintree. The owners also don't seem too fussed about whether they go to Cheltenham or not.
If let's say fact to file is aimed at the Ryanair again next year, then i could very easily see impaire being kept fresh for the bowl or the Melling. In that scenario, your possibly looking at an easier race at a meeting that he's 2/2 at.
Depends on how strong the Ryanair ends up being obviously, along with what sort of gap there is between the festivals next year.
Fact to file is the obvious stand out but he's 3/1 which is a shocking price for a race 11 months away that he might not even run in.
Yep, Sir Gino is a woeful price also as we still don't know much on his health. Some are 11/4 for the Champion Chase. Fucking scandalous.
Can't see him being 2/2 at Aintree being a factor personally. He's also unbeaten at Cheltenham and it's far more prestigious.
Only way he doesn't run is if they run scared of fact to file.
I'd argue he should be 2nd fav for the Ryanair let's look at the horses ahead of him in the betting
majborough. Major jumping questions.
jonbon. Doesn't like Cheltenham and will be 10.
Banbridge. Ground dependant and will be 10.
Gaelic. Looked an out and out 3 miler today worth a go in the gold cup. If not the king george and bowl.
Ballyburn. 16/1 is missing a zero, he cant jump.
Grey dawning. Not good enough imo.
Dinoblue. Won't run.
Caldwell potter. Has to prove hes better than a handicapper but is the best jumper by far of this years novices. Shouldnt be the same price as impaire.
I'd say impaire at 20s now after today is better value than the 33s many of us took after this years festival.
Fact to file is the obvious stand out but he's 3/1 which is a shocking price for a race 11 months away that he might not even run in.
I think gino is the worst of all next years prices, I'd want 11/4 that he actually lines up !
I think it will always be in the back of their minds that he has a good record at Aintree. The owners also don't seem too fussed about whether they go to Cheltenham or not.
If let's say fact to file is aimed at the Ryanair again next year, then i could very easily see impaire being kept fresh for the bowl or the Melling. In that scenario, your possibly looking at an easier race at a meeting that he's 2/2 at.
Depends on how strong the Ryanair ends up being obviously, along with what sort of gap there is between the festivals next year.
Given Galopins defeat in the Gold Cup this season I can see Fact To File head to the Gold Cup now. I can see a situation where by if Fact To File is well beat again by the 3m+ brigade that he could indeed try to defend his crown in the Ryanair, but for me, for now at least, I think they'll be aiming him for the Gold Cup this time around, which leaves the Ryanair open for Impaire Et Passe (at least that's what I hope having backed him for the race).
Do you think jp having Inothewayurthinkin for the gold cup will make fact to file more likely to defend his ryanair crown ? I've backed impaire et passe for the ryanair and put a couple of free bets on fact to file for gold cup so would be quite happy if they went the way you're thinking but I'm not confident enough to put actual cash on yet !
Do you think jp having Inothewayurthinkin for the gold cup will make fact to file more likely to defend his ryanair crown ? I've backed impaire et passe for the ryanair and put a couple of free bets on fact to file for gold cup so would be quite happy if they went the way you're thinking but I'm not confident enough to put actual cash on yet !
Then you add in Jonbon and Maj into the equalisation.
Jonbon might relish the extra distance today and go Ryanair next year.
Maj has jumping concerns. Could FTF drop back to 2m? possible but probably unlikely.
Food for thought.
Can't see him being 2/2 at Aintree being a factor personally. He's also unbeaten at Cheltenham and it's far more prestigious.
Only way he doesn't run is if they run scared of fact to file.
I'd argue he should be 2nd fav for the Ryanair let's look at the horses ahead of him in the betting
majborough. Major jumping questions.
jonbon. Doesn't like Cheltenham and will be 10.
Banbridge. Ground dependant and will be 10.
Gaelic. Looked an out and out 3 miler today worth a go in the gold cup. If not the king george and bowl.
Ballyburn. 16/1 is missing a zero, he cant jump.
Grey dawning. Not good enough imo.
Dinoblue. Won't run.
Caldwell potter. Has to prove hes better than a handicapper but is the best jumper by far of this years novices. Shouldnt be the same price as impaire.
I'd say impaire at 20s now after today is better value than the 33s many of us took after this years festival.
Fact to file is the obvious stand out but he's 3/1 which is a shocking price for a race 11 months away that he might not even run in.
I'm intrigued as to how you've came to the conclusion Caldwell potter is the best jumper of this year's novices?
When they met Gidleigh park gained double the amount of lengths jumping.
1 long one yesterday, but he was still given a 9.7/10 on the jumping index on raceiq.
Just interested how you've formed your opinion.