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2017 Cross Country Chase

I think they we're both off level weights last time CoC? and will be again?

I think I asked about Usual Smurfer earlier on in this thread actually and someone had some info...
 
you could be right i was just checking atr and looked like auvergnat was off 10.11 with a 7lb claimer while usuel smurfer was off 11.4, but I may have read it wrong. cheers ill check further down the thread.
 
Think Cause of Causes is a fascinating one. Olly Murphy has said it has schooled there in the last month. Must be going for it as they would hardly waste their time/money schooling over banks if it is only a lung opener
 
hubert said:
Think Cause of Causes is a fascinating one. Olly Murphy has said it has schooled there in the last month. Must be going for it as they would hardly waste their time/money schooling over banks if it is only a lung opener
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The plan is to run him in the cross-country race at Cheltenham. Based on his form over normal fences, he’d have a chance and all we can hope for is a bit of luck on the day. He raced over that cross-country course last time and we brought him back over during the Cheltenham sales since then and schooled him around there two days in a row, just to get his eye in, so hopefully that will help him. I’m 90% sure Jamie Codd will ride him and he knows him well. The Grand National is the longer-term plan for him.
 
Quantitativeeasing has an entry :triumphant:
The dream is still alive!!!
 
Surprised to hear this...

Big French hope Urgent De Gregaine is only "50-50" to run in the Glenfarclas Chase at the Cheltenham Festival.

The Emmanuel Clayeux-trained nine-year-old is prominent in the betting for the cross-country race on March 15 after he won so well over course and distance in January.

But Clayeux said: "I don't know if he will run yet and I will make a final decision on Monday.

"He is perfectly OK, and has been fine after his last run, but he will have to carry a lot more weight at the Cheltenham Festival and he is only a small horse.

"We have given him an entry, but at the moment I think it is only 50-50 that he will run."

Urgent De Gregaine is as low as 11/2 about winning the Glenfarclas Chase, with Cantlow, whom he defeated by three lengths at Cheltenham in January, the short-priced favourite.
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Leman14 said:
Quantitativeeasing has an entry :triumphant:
The dream is still alive!!!
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There was been someone trying to get £100 matched the day before the entries were announced so I'm assuming he is an intended runner.

CoC is too short for this for me now. I can't back him at single figures after his last go over these fences
 
Faugheen_Machine said:
There was been someone trying to get £100 matched the day before the entries were announced so I'm assuming he is an intended runner.

CoC is too short for this for me now. I can't back him at single figures after his last go over these fences
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First year I won't back him...but "his festival record" is absolutely irrelevant this year isn't it!

QE should be shorter than CoC for this...
 
Hear the French horse may stay at home, GE not to keen on bless the wings as he's popping the stable girl on just for fun.. Must be a decent ew punt out there ?
 
I think that 12/1 is a decent price for Any Currency. His Gold Cup.
 
Interesting that CoC has been over to Endas for schooling sessions as well
 
Elliot bullish about CoC at tonights preview night, can see it going off favourite the way the money is coming for it. bring it home Jamie!
 
CoC has absolutely steam rolled in, was 20/1 end of Jan, now as short as 10/3.

Seems to have a lot of making up to do against Cantlow and a couple of others BUT, the ATR preview night Codd said he had been schooling over the hedges etc... and reckons he'll be much better come the festival than he was LTO, just find it hard to believe he'll be able to beat Cantlow, and think he is plenty short enough now to look elsewhere.

Unless, all of this money is of course because there is a problem with Cantlow? I certainly hope not though!
 
You'd expect to see a problem with Cantlow on the exchanges which there's no signs of? Probably CoC just being backed as there was no clear money for anything else so people backing it as their e/w shout due to reasons of form this time of year etc
 
Way way way way way way too short on the betting. Even if he has had these extra schooling sessions, it isn't like Cantlow and Augvernat will have been snowboarding instead.

This is surely just an easy prep race for CoC to take in on his way to Aintree.

10/3 is one of the worst prices at the festival.

How on earth can he be expected to turn around 20 odd lengths with Cantlow based on a couple of schools is ludicrous.

I am not sitting on the fence either saying 'he is a bad price but could win' ... he can't win. :devilish:
 
I don't think you can take that one run too literally or read too much into it myself Kev. Remember last year, he had two runs prior to the Festival and was tailed off virtually last in both, then miraculously improves to annihilate the field in the Kim Muir.

Spring and Cheltenham seem to bring out the best in him. He also got a rating of 155 for that win last year and Cantlow is currently on his highest ever mark at 151. I know you can't underestimate Banks experience, but he's without doubt, the class act in the race to my eyes.
 
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