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Cheltenham Festival Previews 2017

Faugheen_Machine said:
Agreed. I really enjoyed it, especially when they were giving Dave Yates stick about CP.

Kevin Blake brings a lot to these previews and I could listen to him talk about racing all day - which is just as well because some of the FFP nearly last all bloody day :devilish:
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Couldn't agree more FM. Thought Blake was excellent, and I too, could listen to him all night. Thought the confidence behind The Storyteller was ominous. Gutted Ive missed the boat, but too short now. Wouldn't be surprised if he's bigger on the day.
 
Can't Catch Me said:
Couldn't agree more FM. Thought Blake was excellent, and I too, could listen to him all night. Thought the confidence behind The Storyteller was ominous. Gutted Ive missed the boat, but too short now. Wouldn't be surprised if he's bigger on the day.
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I would be very surprised if he's bigger on the day!use his runner last year as a guide i would think....
 
I would not be too worried if anyone has missed the boat on these preview night tips. If you look back at previous years you'll find the majority of these hot pots don't win anyway. Stay strong to your own views and analysis and try not to get too sucked in. The preview nights can be entertaining but if I'm putting money down, I always want to justify my bet to myself through proper analysis rather than a preview night 'tip'. Everyone on this forum is knowledgeable enough to be able to make selections independently so trust yourself. From what I have read, Gordon Elliott will be setting a new record of winning every handicap this year! I know he has the arsenal Nd is one of the best trainers at present, but he can't win them all as I bet every other trainer is talking up horses in their yards for the same races.
 
The preview nights just benefit the bookies and enable them to cut a new batch of horses based on the panel tips. The horses that get put up will have genuine chances but they will now be over bet and the price does not reflect the actual chance anymore.
 
I always look back on my Preview notes after the Festival and its amazing how few winners they actually tip. And invariably the handicap blots that were backed on the day barely got a mention.

So when you hear Davy talking one down, Im more inclined to listen, than when he talks one up.

Henderson was apparently quite negative about Hargam yesterday... probably a positive!
 
Morning Glory said:
Any thoughts if Ball D'Arc will run anywhere - GE said he had nothing for Johnny Henderson.
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I would have expected Ball D'Arc to have a leading chance in the Grand Annual but I think they have mentioned saving him for Fairyhouse.
 
Just the five previews tonight, are any being streamed ?
(Chepstow, Walkabout London, Waterford, Cirencester and N Yorkshire)
 
Istabraq said:
Just the five previews tonight, are any being streamed ?
(Chepstow, Walkabout London, Waterford, Cirencester and N Yorkshire)
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Waterford usually has a good twitter feed and video after.

Betbright the same. Thought you would be off to hang on Rich's every word Ista :devilish:
 
mayo said:
Thought you would be off to hang on Rich's every word Ista :devilish:
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Probably for the best that he and I are never in the same room together....
 
JackieMoon33 said:
I would not be too worried if anyone has missed the boat on these preview night tips. If you look back at previous years you'll find the majority of these hot pots don't win anyway. Stay strong to your own views and analysis and try not to get too sucked in. The preview nights can be entertaining but if I'm putting money down, I always want to justify my bet to myself through proper analysis rather than a preview night 'tip'. Everyone on this forum is knowledgeable enough to be able to make selections independently so trust yourself. From what I have read, Gordon Elliott will be setting a new record of winning every handicap this year! I know he has the arsenal Nd is one of the best trainers at present, but he can't win them all as I bet every other trainer is talking up horses in their yards for the same races.
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Very good post this Jackie :encouragement:
 
Might be something on these

https://twitter.com/StarSports_Bet Lambourn

jerry mcgrath prefers his boss whisper to might bite in the rsa and charli parcs looks set for the triumph after saturdays mishap at Kempton
 
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Betbright

Paul Kealy - PK Joe Tizzard - JT Noel Hayes - NH Rich Ricci - RR Nick Luck - NL

Supreme Hurdle:
Rich Ricci not impressed by form of Melon. Says his best novice hurdler is Let's Dance.
NH on Melon (Supreme): "He would be five times the price if he wasn't trained by Willie Mullins. I'd take Bunk Off Early all day."
JT on Finian's Oscar: "He's probably the nicest novice we've had coming through. Neon Wolf is a big threat though."

Mares Hurlde: Rich Ricci "I really fancy Vroum Vroum Mag"
Mares novices hurdle: Ricci - if Let's Dance runs, she wins!

Albert Bartlett:
Joe Tizzard confirms West Approach will run


Paul Kealy: "Peace And Co is stupidly low (we'll handicapped). A mark of 140. He settled in that racecourse gallop. Got to have a chance."

JLT Novices' Chase: Ricci - Yorkhill wouldn't be out of place in the Champion Hurdle, one of the bets of the week!

On #Yorkhill. If there were no rails he would be on x country course at half way. @PaulKealyRP in form. #betbrightpreview

Wherever Champers On Ice goes he's worth a bet..... @PaulKealyRP and then on Genie On Abottle - he's a negative
#betbrightpreview

On Alpha Des Obeaux @JoeTizzard says the bleed is no issue. Rich Ricci is a Might Bite fan against the panel for the #RSA #betbrightpreview

For the Browne Advisory @JoeTizzard has just napped Sizing Codelco for the week #CheltenhamFestival #betbrightpreview


Champion Hurdle:

Ricci on Limini - entitled to run the race but but we want a legitimate chance to win

Rich Ricci on Vroum Vroum Mag: "On the day we supplemented Annie Power last year Willie said I think we're supplementing the wrong horse."

There is still potential she could go for the Champion Hurdle." That sent a shockwave through the crowd!

Just a chance. Not likely.

Ricci on Ruby Walsh: I would have him over anyone going to the last
 
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From earlier in the week

DAVY RUSSELL is to Cheltenham preview nights what greasy sausages are to a fry-up.

You can have one without him, but it will always feel like the best part is missing. He’s here and he looks fairly fresh. He was at Ffos Las only a few hours ago. Five rides. No winner. No matter.
“Just to warn you about Jack [Kennedy],” he’s off already. “Jack is from Kerry and he . . . taaaaaalks . . . very . . . very . . . very . . . slowwwww-ly. It . . . will . . . take . . . him . . . ages . . . to . . . get . . . out . . . every . . . word.”
Impression number one nailed. He’s right too. Kennedy talks about as quickly as Quixall Crossett used to run.

Russell does a good Roy Keane too, not the biggest surprise given they are both from Cork.
When a mobile phone goes off near the front, he pounces. “Whose phone is that? Whose phone is that? Why don’t you turn it off? Or put it on silent? Have a bit of manners.”

He soon puts manners on Paddy Power’s Rob Catterson too. “How could Melon be your biggest loser? Surely you only took fivers and tenners at the big prices.”

Russell has some advice for Nigel Twiston-Davies too. “They would be off their heads not to run Ballyandy in the Coral Cup with just 10st 13lb.”

This is a night for big, sweeping statements. If you haven’t got a strong opinion that is exaggerated more than a Premier League dive then don’t bother picking up the microphone at all.

That style suits Mark Winstanley as The Couch loves nothing more than a good, old analogy.
From the Tolworth form having more holes in it than St Andrews to Unowhatimeanharry being the biggest certainty since Ben Hur got into the chariot, they just keep on coming. He is even willing to take a bullet if Neon Wolf doesn’t win the Neptune and agrees to start supporting Man United if Petit Mouchoir wins the Champion Hurdle. He has also found the one to complete the tricast in the Racing Post Arkle. “Altior wins by miles, Royal Caviar will be second and the ambulance will come home third.”

Time for a quick straw poll. “Hands up who thinks Douvan would beat Altior if they met?” asks Russell. Almost all of the 200 or so crowd promptly pop their paws in the air. And who’d back Altior? One hand rises. We Irish are very patriotic.

Kennedy thinks Petit Mouchoir will win the Champion Hurdle. Russell thinks he might but wouldn’t put anyone off Yanworth. Brian Flanagan believes Ireland is sending the B team over for it. All agree it is a “very ordinary” renewal.

Andrew McNamara shares a story with the crowd about the day he interviewed Djakadam’s groom live on RTE and only realised after he asked the first question that he didn’t speak a word of English. “Where was he from, Kerry?” replies Russell to roaring laughter from the floor.

The Couch would not back Might Bite with counterfeit in the RSA. Russell, in one of his more serious moments, talks up Whisper, saying: “He is a lovely horse and I am absolutely mad about him.” Brian Flanagan would fancy Coney Island if he turned up here, but has spotted something in the National Hunt Chase. Arbre De Vie (33-1) is the name and we even give Joe Chambers, Rich Ricci’s racing manager, an impromptu call on loudspeaker. “He’s slow and wants extreme distances,” says Chambers. Luckily it’s over four miles.

Yorkhill divides opinion. McNamara labels him big and thick. Russell says he is “his own worst enemy”. Catterson naps him at the end of the night. Make your own mind up.

None of the panel is contemplating defeat for Unowhatimeanharry. “He is as far ahead of these as Douvan is in the Queen Mother,” says McNamara. Death Duty is another who earns unanimous backing from the panel with Kennedy seeing nothing that could live with him.

Mega Fortune is one of Russell’s best rides of the week in the Triumph. “The softer the ground, the better his chance,” he reveals.
Finally, we make it to the Gold Cup. Cue Card is 11 and shouldn’t bother showing up. Outlander might not be good enough claims Kennedy. Russell is not convinced by Native River’s form despite all his winning, but The Couch thinks he is “bombproof”.
Confused? Me too.

THE PANEL’S PICKS

Davy Russell
Unowhatimeanharry (Sun Bets Stayers’ Hurdle)

Jack Kennedy
Death Duty (Albert Bartlett Novices’ Hurdle)

Mark Winstanley
Beware The Bear (National Hunt Chase)

Andrew McNamara
Charbel without Altior (Racing Post Arkle Chase)

Brian Flanagan
Coney Island (JLT Novices’ Chase)

Gavin Cromwell
Death Duty (Albert Bartlett Novices’ Hurdle)

Rob Catterson
Yorkhill (JLT Novices’ Chase)

Denis Kirwan
Defi Du Seuil (JCB Triumph Hurdle)
 
That's a proper preview evening G1...
 
Betdaq Night https://twitter.com/gjt90

Charlie Swan
Denis Hogan
Tom Hogan
Johnny Burke
David Mullins
Ollie Murphy

SUPREME Charlie Swan/Tom Hogan - Bunk Off Early Denis H - Moon Racer Danny M -"will take a serious performance for melon win" @OllieHayesBar
Ollie Murphy against Mellon "beat a very poor horse off ours, very open race I'd be siding with Moon Racer" @OllieHayesBar @BETDAQ
Johnny Bourke - "if Ruby walsh thinks he's good enough to win that's enough for me" #Melon @OllieHayesBar @BETDAQ
ARKLE All panel obviously with Altior, Johnny B thinks Charbel will chase him home. Denis H with Identity Thief e/w @OllieHayesBar
ARKLE Olly M - "pretty boring race, Royal Caviar might chase him home" Charlie - "I wouldn't have Nico up on Altior,his only danger"
DOUVAN VS ALTIOR Tom & Denis both think Altior could beat Douvan IF Noel Fehily was on board,the panel aren't fans of Nico @OllieHayesBar
CHAMPION HURDLE Olly Murphy - "Tombstone has an e/w chance but Yanworth big price at 7/2" @OllieHayesBar @BETDAQ
CHAMPION HURDLE Charlie Swan - "I'd be a big fan of Yanworth" Tom Hogan - "Yanworth not as fluent as last year, Buveur Dair" @OllieHayesBar
CHAMPION HURDLE Danny Mullins - "Tom hogan is on drugs, yanworth very fluent & solid, gets the job done,Brain Power only a handicapper"
CHAMPION HURDLE Johnny Bourke who's been on tinder all night has just found a 33yr old blonde looking for fun @OllieHayesBar @BETDAQ
CHAMPION HURDLE Johnny Bourke - "Brain Power for me, David is very sweet on him"
Danny Mullins causing trouble here, first targeting Johnny B exposing his tinder troubles and now poor Donagh Meyler @OllieHayesBar
MARES HURDLE Charlie Swan - Apples Jade Tom Hogan - VVM not the mare she was last year,Apple Denis Hogan - VVM Danny M - VVM @OllieHayesBar
MARES HURDLE Olly Murphy - "if Limini turns up she will take a lot of beating, our mare will have to improve greatly from her last run"
NEPTUNE Tom Hogan - "Neon Wolf,form is outstanding, Noel F says he is very very very good & said he has more gears in him" @OllieHayesBar
NEPTUNE Johnny B - Bacardys Denis Hogan - "Finians Oscar is the real deal" Olly Murphy - "Brelade massive e/w price but Neon Wolf"
NEPTUNE Danny Mullins - "My mother trained Neon to a PTP, he's very good, will take ALL the beating" @OllieHayesBar
RSA Johnny B - "Coney Island, Might Bite no hope" Danny Mullins - "Coney has solid form" Charlie - "I like Coney,very hard to beat"
RSA Olly Murphy - "we have no runner in this and Coney Island is a proper bet at 4/1" Tom Hogan - lay Might Bite back Coney Denis - ADO
RSA Mark Enright after popping in, says "Alpha Des Obeaux is flying it at home solid e/w but Coney for me"
QUEEN MOTHER Who chases Douvan home? Denis - Special Tiara Tom - race to watch Olly - enjoy the race Charlie - watch Johnny B - Tinder
WHO WINS FURTHER? All panel say Douvan will further than Altior..
CHAMP BUMP Danny Mullins - "Carter definitely working the best of Willies at home, the mother has Debuchet and is a good e/w"
CHAMP BUMPER Olly Murphy - "Patrick said at a preview last week is very very sweet on Carter, I think he'll be shorter than 3/1"
CHAMP BUMPER Tom Hogan - "Carter stays very well, high cruising speed & a turn of foot" Denis - Carter Gordon won't have any runner
CHAMP BUMPER Danny Mullins driver is after popping up out of no where "CARTER IS A CERTAINTY" Danny has a personal driver @BETDAQ
Half time here @OllieHayesBar ,the boys have gone to see what Johnny Bourke's new Tinder match is like, solid e/w says Johnny @darraghayes
Wherever Let's Dance goes she wins is the word floating around here at the break @OllieHayesBar
JLT Olly Murphy - "I'm very very sweet on Yorkhill, 6/4 looks massive to me" Danny Mullins - "I wouldn't be backing Yorkhill at that price"
JLT Johnny B - Disko if he goes Charlie - Yorkhill, Disko e/w Tom Hogan - Charbel if he runs here Denis - Charbel e/w @OllieHayesBar
RYANAIR Olly Murphy - "we run Empire, very fragile & hard to train, UDS very hard to oppose" Tom Hogan - UDS Charlie - Empire of Dirt
Gar Toohey Retweeted Matthew Hall‏*@MJLH16 9h9 hours ago
RYANAIR Danny Mullins - "Id struggle to get away from UDS, won't be a steering job tho" Johnny B - Empire
RYANAIR Donagh Meyler really likes Empire Of Dirt
STAYERS Charlie - "Harry deserves to be fav, Noel will ride him, Cole Harden e/w, Harry should win" @OllieHayesBar
STAYERS Olly Murphy - "Harry one of the bankers of the week" Tom Hogan after asking for a price on NICHOLLS NOT TO TRAIN A WINNER, Tom
STAYERS Danny Mullins - "Harry should be a banker, jezki very poor last day although Jessie said working well since" Johnny B - Cole e/w
MARES NOVICE Danny Mullins - "Lets Dance is the one here, Rich wants a winner and at 3/1 she's my banker of the whole week"
MARES NOVICE Charlie - "If Lets Dance turns up she's a good thing" Olly Murphy - "we won't win this, Willie wins this"
MARES NOVICE Tom Hogan - "Lets Dance obvious choice" Denis Hogan - Lets Dance 6/4 now
TRIUMPH Charlie - "DDS should win, has the form, better than Charli" Olly Murphy - "Mega Fortune is massive at 6/1" @OllieHayesBar
TRIUMPH Denis Hogan - DDS Danny Mullins - "Dandy Mag at 33/1 e/w for me, working solid at home" Johnny B - Meri Devie overpriced
ALBERT BARTLET Denis - Death Duty NAP Tom - West App e/w Johnny - Monalee e/w Charlie - DD BANKER Danny - AB graveyard for favs, Worldends
ALBERT BARTLET Olly Murphy - "apple of Gordon's eye, Irish banker and our banker of the week" @BETDAQ @OllieHayesBar
GOLD CUP Danny Mullins - "Native River only won 2 handicaps, Djack for me, prep this season has been very smooth" @OllieHayesBar
GOLD CUP Johnny B - "Native River if I had to pick a ride, has it all" Charlie - "Djackadam, more class than NR, More of That e/w"
GOLD CUP Olly Murphy - "Champagne West big price at 16/1" Tom Hogan - "Cue Card won a bicycle race LTO, More of That for me"
GOLD CUP Denis Hogan - "the good had gone out of with Vatour & Thistle gone, I like Minella Rocco, has had no luck but MR 33/1 for me"
GOLD CUP Donagh Meyler - Native River Mark Enright - Cue Card
HANDICAPS Danny - Martello Charlie - Demand king Olly - Run for Dave Tom - Peter the mayo man Denis - Modus Johnny - Vaniteux @BETDAQ
TOP IRISH TRAINER Denis - Gordon Tom - Gordon Charlie - Gordon Danny - Gordon Johnny - Gordon @BETDAQ
CHARITY BETS Denis - Petit M €50 e/w Tom - Neon Wolf €100 Olly - Diamond King €50 e/w Charlie - Yanworth €100 Johnny - Cole Harden €50 e/w
LAYS OF FESTIVAL Denis - Melon Tom - Yorkhill Olly - Melon NOT to place Charlie - Cue Card Danny - DEATH DUTY Johnny - Yorkhill @BETDAQ
 
Waterford

A very exciting first half at the Woodlands Hotel. Douvan is bombproof and Yorkhill should run in the Arkle says Davy Russell

Moon Racer is a banker says John Francome and Oliver Sherwood. Divin Bere for the Fred Winter says Jim McGrath.

Petit Mouchoir is the home fancy for the Champion hurdle says Noel OBrien. Mick Fitzgerald is keen on Brain Power. Yanworth for David Casey

On the bumper - Some Day is the best of the Irish says Russell. Next Destination could be the ride of Ruby according to David Casey
 
Was at the betfair one the other night, but it seems everyone's written it up. Was pretty good craic, especially when they enhanced Buever D'Air, then the whole proceeded to write him off. Gordon Elliot was on good form - I have DD in the forum yankee, but I've had this niggling feeling that he's vulnerable despite the form, but the way GE spoke about him has won me round
 
Does anyone know if dan barber from Timeform is doing any preview nights,
He did a show of handicappers at festival 2 year ago on ATR and his angle was only entered for one race. So more than likely to run in that race, gave 3 winners and non runner
Irish cavalier won about 11-1
Druids nephew won about 10-1
The package 8-1
Cup final ( didn't get in his race ) so he is one so called expert I do like to listen too
 
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