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Neptune Novices Hurdle 2017

Yeh he said Mares Novice would suit most...

Mullins said: "The advantage she has is that she's a second-season novice in against real novices. She ran last year but didn't win and we just ran her in big races because she started off so late in the season.

"We took a chance that if she won one, all well and good, but if she didn't she'd have all the experience for this year. I think that's paying off for her, apart from the fact that she's a good filly anyway. The conditions of the race suited her here. She did it well.

"We have to try and pick the right race for her at Cheltenham now. The mares' novice would look the obvious one, but that's only two and a quarter miles.

"She might be better off running in maybe the Neptune or the Mares' Hurdle, something a bit longer. We'll see what turns up in the mares' novice.

"Two-and-a-quarter around Cheltenham would be a good gallop, though, and it's more than likely the one. We'll see as we have a few nice mares for that race.

"We won't have to make up our mind for a while and we'll see how she comes out of that."
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I mean... Ricci Roulette / Mullins Bingo is in full flight, when straight after Ricci is talking Albert Bartlett...
 
it's more than likely the one. We'll see as we have a few nice mares for that race.

I think that means Ruby decides. Owners (and maybe particularly Ricci) want him on their horses.
 
Does anyone know Peregrine Run's festival target and if he goes please? I know Peter Fahey was toying between AB and Neptune but haven't heard anything since.

His form from Cheltenham where he beat Wholestone and West Approach keeps getting better and better and at 33s with Betfair, he's surely been overlooked/overpriced?

LTO possible had something to do with it where I thought he travelled and jumped well for a long way on soft ground he notoriously hates before not going on with Willoughby Court (who was an impressive winner on the day at Warwick).

Tempted to wait for NRNB because if it goes soft I imagine he wouldn't run but 33s seems huge to me and I'd be prepared to take the risk?
 
Lessey said:
Does anyone know Peregrine Run's festival target and if he goes please? I know Peter Fahey was toying between AB and Neptune but haven't heard anything since.

His form from Cheltenham where he beat Wholestone and West Approach keeps getting better and better and at 33s with Betfair, he's surely been overlooked/overpriced?

LTO possible had something to do with it where I thought he travelled and jumped well for a long way on soft ground he notoriously hates before not going on with Willoughby Court (who was an impressive winner on the day at Warwick).

Tempted to wait for NRNB because if it goes soft I imagine he wouldn't run but 33s seems huge to me and I'd be prepared to take the risk?
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bay of freedom would be the man to find out for us ...
 
Lessey said:
Does anyone know Peregrine Run's festival target and if he goes please? I know Peter Fahey was toying between AB and Neptune but haven't heard anything since.

His form from Cheltenham where he beat Wholestone and West Approach keeps getting better and better and at 33s with Betfair, he's surely been overlooked/overpriced?

LTO possible had something to do with it where I thought he travelled and jumped well for a long way on soft ground he notoriously hates before not going on with Willoughby Court (who was an impressive winner on the day at Warwick).

Tempted to wait for NRNB because if it goes soft I imagine he wouldn't run but 33s seems huge to me and I'd be prepared to take the risk?
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I'm hoping AB, but that is pocket talking. The last I heard - that was the aim, but it could well be ground dependent and this was by no means 100% confirmed.

I am surprised that "William Henry" is still available at 33's. I thought that he looked very good behind Wholestone (who just keeps getting better and better) and given that this was his first attempt at the trip - I think that he could be very useful on better ground.

I was really happy that I snapped up some 33's before the weekend, but somewhat confused that you can still get that price...! Am I missing something??
 
I thought they said they might swerve Cheltenham with PR, or go down the handicap route. I'll see if I can find a quote.
 
Lessey said:
Does anyone know Peregrine Run's festival target and if he goes please? I know Peter Fahey was toying between AB and Neptune but haven't heard anything since.

His form from Cheltenham where he beat Wholestone and West Approach keeps getting better and better and at 33s with Betfair, he's surely been overlooked/overpriced?

LTO possible had something to do with it where I thought he travelled and jumped well for a long way on soft ground he notoriously hates before not going on with Willoughby Court (who was an impressive winner on the day at Warwick).

Tempted to wait for NRNB because if it goes soft I imagine he wouldn't run but 33s seems huge to me and I'd be prepared to take the risk?
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Wonder if he is priced up in the "any race" market? I backed for the AB ... tempted by 33/1 as a saver but I will check when I get home.
 
Leman the trial on Saturday was a Neptune trial over 2m 4f.. He's still 20/1 for the Neptune which is the race I have backed him for.
 
cwright23 said:
Leman the trial on Saturday was a Neptune trial over 2m 4f.. He's still 20/1 for the Neptune which is the race I have backed him for.
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Sorry Cwright, my post was in two parts. (Should have been clearer :))
The first bit was about Peregrine Run, the 2nd about William Henry

I'm on WH for the Neptune at 33's, but Slybet are still 33's after that performance.
 
Leman14 said:
I'm hoping AB, but that is pocket talking. The last I heard - that was the aim, but it could well be ground dependent and this was by no means 100% confirmed.

I am surprised that "William Henry" is still available at 33's. I thought that he looked very good behind Wholestone (who just keeps getting better and better) and given that this was his first attempt at the trip - I think that he could be very useful on better ground.

I was really happy that I snapped up some 33's before the weekend, but somewhat confused that you can still get that price...! Am I missing something??
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I really liked the performance of William Henry on Saturday. He jumped nicely and quickly and I agree that better ground will see an even better horse. As for the price, I think it's amixture of two things. One he has gone a little under the radar, which is a little surprising from apowerful stable. I think the other reason is its target, I would like to see it head down the Supreme route. I think it has the pace to cope with that race and it certainly has the jumping ability . I also think the Neptune looks really strong at the minute , where the Supreme looks a little more open at present.
I want to go in now whilst the price is there, but I'm just not sure what route they will go down.
 
I hope Neon Wolf turns up in this... I think he should be fav. I think Finian's Oscar is fav because of Yorkhill's path to the festival last season more than his performance.

Neon Wolf has been one of the most impressive horses this season (especially the way he hurdles) and he is more likely to step up to this distance unless it is soft ground.

6/1 NRNB with WH is very fair I think! I think he'd be fav when declared!
 
Neptune Investment Management Novices’ Hurdle
Grade 1, Total Prize Fund £125,000, Cheltenham, 1.30pm, Wednesday, March 15. Old Course, two miles and five furlongs (2m 5f 26yds). For novice four-year-olds and upwards. Weights: four-year-olds 10st 12lb; five-year-olds and upwards 11st 7lb. Allowances: fillies & mares 7lb. Entries closed January 31, entries revealed, February 2 (118 entries), scratchings deadline February 21. Six-day confirmation and £6,000 supplementary stage March 9. Final declaration stage 10am, Tuesday, March 14.

Horse Age Owner Trainer
ACCORD (IRE) 7 Jim Furlong David Bridgwater
ACTING LASS (IRE) 6 Nigel & Barbara Collison Harry Fry
AIRLIE BEACH (IRE) 7 Supreme Horse Racing Club/K Sharp Willie Mullins IRE
AL BOUM PHOTO (FR) 5 Mrs J Donnelly Willie Mullins IRE
AUGUSTA KATE 6 The Masters Syndicate Willie Mullins IRE
AUGUSTIN (FR) 7 Luke McMahon Willie Mullins IRE
AUSSIE REIGNS (IRE) 7 Wicklow Bloodstock (Ireland) Ltd Willie Mullins IRE
BACARDYS (FR) 6 Shanakiel Racing Syndicate Willie Mullins IRE
BADEN (FR) 6 Triermore Stud Nicky Henderson
BAGS GROOVE (IRE) 6 Michael Pescod Harry Fry
BALLYANDY 6 Options O Syndicate Nigel Twiston-Davies
BALLYMOUNTAIN BOY (IRE) 6 The Chameleons Martin Keighley
BALTAZAR D'ALLIER (FR) 6 J P McManus Gordon Elliott IRE
BANG ON FRANKIE (IRE) 5 Bradley Partnership Colin Tizzard
BARRA (FR) 6 Gigginstown House Stud Gordon Elliott IRE
BATTLEFORD 6 Andrea & Graham Wylie Willie Mullins IRE
BENATAR (IRE) 5 Ashley Head Gary Moore
BEYOND CONCEIT (IRE) 8 Fitri Hay Nicky Henderson
BHUTAN (IRE) 4 J P McManus Joseph O'Brien IRE
BLACK KEY 5 Gigginstown House Stud Henry de Bromhead IRE
BLACK NIGHT (IRE) 5 Anne Moon James Moon JER
BLOOD CRAZED TIGER (IRE) 6 Gigginstown House Stud Gordon Elliott IRE
BLUE RAMBLER 7 Paul Downing Ian Williams
BON PAPA (FR) 6 J P McManus Willie Mullins IRE
BORDEAUX BILL (IRE) 6 Mrs J A Martin Brian Ellison
BRAVISSIMO (FR) 6 Susannah Ricci Willie Mullins IRE
BRELADE 5 D P Sharkey Gordon Elliott IRE
BRIO CONTI (FR) 6 The Gi Gi Syndicate Paul Nicholls
BUNK OFF EARLY (IRE) 5 Supreme Horse Racing Club Willie Mullins IRE
BURBANK (IRE) 5 Ronnie Bartlett Nicky Henderson
CAPTAIN FOREZ (FR) 5 John Hales Dan Skelton
CARO DES FLOS (FR) 5 Highclere T'Bred Racing Syndicate-Caro Willie Mullins IRE
CASTELLO SFORZA (IRE) 6 J P McManus Willie Mullins IRE
CATAMARAN DU SEUIL (FR) 5 Michael P Tudor Dr Richard Newland
C'EST JERSEY (FR) 5 Simon Munir/Isaac Souede Willie Mullins IRE
CHALONNIAL (FR) 5 Nicholas Cooper Harry Fry
CHARLEMAR (FR) 5 The Hennessy Six Harry Whittington
CHARMING ZEN (FR) 5 Potensis Bloodstock Limited Dan Skelton
CHATEAU CONTI (FR) 5 Edward O'Connell Willie Mullins IRE
CILAOS EMERY (FR) 5 Luke McMahon Willie Mullins IRE
COLIN'S SISTER 6 Caroline Beresford-Wylie Fergal O'Brien
CONRAD HASTINGS (IRE) 6 Clipper Logistics Group Ltd Henry de Bromhead IRE
CONSUL DE THAIX (FR) 5 J P McManus Nicky Henderson
COQUIN MANS (FR) 5 George Creighton Willie Mullins IRE
CRACK MOME (FR) 5 Andrea & Graham Wylie Willie Mullins IRE
CRIEVEHILL (IRE) 5 Nigel Twiston-Davies Nigel Twiston-Davies
CRIQ ROCK (FR) 6 The Trouble Partnership Alan King
CULTIVATOR 6 Kimmins Family and Friends Nicky Henderson
DANDY MAG (FR) 4 G Mercer/D Mercer/Mrs Caren Walsh Willie Mullins IRE
DE DOLLAR MAN (IRE) 6 William & Angela Rucker Evan Williams
DEATH DUTY (IRE) 6 Gigginstown House Stud Gordon Elliott IRE
EAMON AN CNOIC (IRE) 6 The Angove Family David Pipe
EL TERREMOTO (FR) 5 Simon Munir & Isaac Souede Nigel Twiston-Davies
FAIRLEE GREY 8 J L Gledson George Charlton
FINIAN'S OSCAR (IRE) 5 Ann & Alan Potts Colin Tizzard
GAITWAY 7 Mrs J K Powell Nicky Henderson
GEORDIE DES CHAMPS (IRE) 6 J P McManus Rebecca Curtis
GUNNERY SERGEANT (IRE) 6 Gigginstown House Stud Noel Meade IRE
HIGH BRIDGE 6 Bloomfields Ben Pauling
HOUSESOFPARLIAMENT (IRE) 4 J P McManus Joseph O'Brien IRE
INVITATION ONLY (IRE) 6 Andrea & Graham Wylie Willie Mullins IRE
JERRYSBACK (IRE) 5 J P McManus Philip Hobbs
JUSTMEMYSELFANDI (IRE) 6 Well Oiled Partnership Elizabeth Doyle IRE
KEEP IN LINE (GER) 5 Paul & Clare Rooney Alan King
KEEPER HILL (IRE) 6 McNeill Family Warren Greatrex
KEMBOY (FR) 5 Supreme Racing/Brett Graham/Ken Sharp Willie Mullins IRE
LABAIK (FR) 6 A J O'Ryan Gordon Elliott IRE
LAKESIDE CASTLE (IRE) 6 Hills of Ledbury (Aga) Dan Skelton
LANDOFHOPEANDGLORY (IRE) 4 J P McManus Joseph O'Brien IRE
LASER LIGHT (IRE) 6 Simon Munir & Isaac Souede Alan King
LE BREUIL (FR) 5 Emma Collins Ben Pauling
LE MARTALIN (FR) 6 Gigginstown House Stud Noel Meade IRE
LET'S DANCE (FR) 5 Susannah Ricci Willie Mullins IRE
LIVELOVELAUGH (IRE) 7 Susannah Ricci Willie Mullins IRE
LOUGHADERRA PRINCE (IRE) 8 Barry Connell Alan Fleming IRE
MELON 5 Mrs J Donnelly Willie Mullins IRE
MESSIRE DES OBEAUX (FR) 5 Simon Munir & Isaac Souede Alan King
MINELLA AWARDS (IRE) 6 Masterson Holdings Limited Harry Fry
MONALEE (IRE) 6 Barry Maloney Henry de Bromhead IRE
MONBEG CHARMER (IRE) 6 Lady Dulverton Charlie Longsdon
MONTALBANO 5 Susannah Ricci Willie Mullins IRE
MOULIN A VENT 5 Patricia Hunt Noel Meade IRE
MOUNT MEWS (IRE) 6 Trevor Hemmings Malcolm Jefferson
MOVEWITHTHETIMES (IRE) 6 J P McManus Paul Nicholls
MR CHAMPERS (IRE) 5 M Fitzgerald Adrian Keatley IRE
MR MONOCHROME 6 Mr & Mrs G Calder & P M Warren Malcolm Jefferson
NEON WOLF (IRE) 6 Masterson Holdings Limited Harry Fry
PEREGRINE RUN (IRE) 7 V Byrne Peter Fahey IRE
PETER THE MAYO MAN (IRE) 7 Masterson Holdings Limited Neil Mulholland
PHOBIAPHILIAC (IRE) 6 Bradley Partnership Nicky Henderson
PLEASANT COMPANY (IRE) 9 Malcolm Denmark Willie Mullins IRE
POETIC RHYTHM (IRE) 6 FOB Racing Club Fergal O'Brien
POKER PLAY (FR) 4 The Angove Family David Pipe
RAINY DAY DYLAN (IRE) 6 Burnham P & D Ltd Neil Mulholland
RATHER BE (IRE) 6 Matt & Lauren Morgan Nicky Henderson
RIVEN LIGHT (IRE) 5 Susannah Ricci Willie Mullins IRE
RIVER FROST 5 J P McManus Alan King
ROBINSHILL (IRE) 6 R J Rexton Nigel Twiston-Davies
RUNFORDAVE (IRE) 5 Mrs Pat Sloan Gordon Elliott IRE
SATURNAS (FR) 6 Wicklow Bloodstock (Ireland) Ltd Willie Mullins IRE
SENEWALK (FR) 5 Susannah Ricci Willie Mullins IRE
SHATTERED LOVE (IRE) 6 Gigginstown House Stud Gordon Elliott IRE
SIR ANTONY BROWNE 5 Incipe Partnership Alan King
SIRE DU BERLAIS (FR) 5 J P McManus Gordon Elliott IRE
SKIPTHECUDDLES (IRE) 6 TyroneForSam Graeme McPherson
SOLIGHOSTER (FR) 5 The Colony Stable LLC & Dajam Ltd Neil Mulholland
SURF INSTRUCTOR (IRE) 5 Julian Taylor Henry de Bromhead IRE
SWORD FIGHTER (IRE) 4 J P McManus Joseph O'Brien IRE
THE STORYTELLER (IRE) 6 Mrs Pat Sloan Gordon Elliott IRE
THE UNIT (IRE) 6 International Plywood (Importers) Ltd Alan King
THOMAS CAMPBELL 5 Mrs Van Geest & Lizzie Kelvin Hughes Nicky Henderson
TURCAGUA (FR) 7 Susannah Ricci Willie Mullins IRE
WILLIAM HENRY (IRE) 7 Walters Plant Hire Ltd Nicky Henderson
WILLOUGHBY COURT (IRE) 6 Paul & Clare Rooney Ben Pauling
WINDSHEAR 6 G Thompson Sophie Leech
WISHMOOR (IRE) 7 Gigginstown House Stud Mouse Morris IRE
WITHOUT LIMITES (FR) 5 Goliath Syndicate Elizabeth Doyle IRE
WOODS WELL (IRE) 6 Gigginstown House Stud Gordon Elliott IRE

118 entries
57 Irish-trained
1 Jersey-trained
 
Breakdown of Neptune Investment Management Novices’ Hurdle by trainer
29 entries
Willie Mullins IRE – Airlie Beach, Al Boum Photo, Augusta Kate, Augustin, Aussie Reigns, Bacardys, Battleford, Bon Papa, Bravissimo, Bunk Off Early, Caro Des Flos, Castello Sforza, C’Est Jersey, Chateau Conti, Cilaos Emery, Coquin Mans, Crack Mome, Dandy Mag, Invitation Only, Kemboy, Let’s Dance, Livelovelaugh, Melon, Montalbano, Pleasant Company, Riven Light, Saturnas, Senewalk, Turcagua

11 entries
Gordon Elliott IRE – Baltazar D’Allier, Barra, Blood Crazed Tiger, Brelade, Death Duty, Labaik, Runfordave, Shattered Love, Sire Du Berlais, The Storyteller, Woods Well

10 entries
Nicky Henderson – Baden, Beyond Conceit, Burbank, Consul De Thaix, Cultivator, Gaitway, Phobiaphiliac, Rather Be, Thomas Campbell, William Henry

7 entries
Alan King – Criq Rock, Keep In Line, Laser Light, Messire Des Obeaux, River Frost, Sir Antony Bowe, The Unit

5 entries
Harry Fry – Acting Lass, Bags Groove, Chalonnial, Minella Awards, Neon Wolf

4 entries
Henry de Bromhead IRE – Black Key, Conrad Hastings, Monalee, Surf Instructor
Joseph O’Brien IRE – Bhutan, Housesofparliament, Landofhopeandglory, Sword Fighter
Nigel Twiston-Davies – Ballyandy, Crievehill, El Terremoto, Robinshill

3 entries
Noel Meade IRE – Gunnery Sergeant, Le Martalin, Moulin A Vent
Neil Mulholland – Peter The Mayo Man, Rainy Day Dylan, Solighoster
Ben Pauling – High Bridge, Le Breuil, Willoughby Court
Dan Skelton – Captain Forez, Charming Zen, Lakeside Castle

2 entries
Elizabeth Doyle IRE – Justmemyselfandi, Without Limites
Malcolm Jefferson – Mount Mews, Mr Monochrome Paul Nicholls – Brio Conti, Movewiththetimes Fergal O’Brien – Colin’s Sister, Poetic Rhythm David Pipe – Eamon An Cnoic, Poker Play
Colin Tizzard – Bang On Frankie, Finian’s Oscar

1 entry
David Bridgwater – Accord
George Charlton – Fairlee Grey Rebecca Curtis – Geordie Des Champs Brian Ellison – Bordeaux Bill
Peter Fahey IRE – Peregrine Run
Alan Fleming IRE – Loughaderra Prince
Warren Greatrex – Keeper Hill
Philip Hobbs - Jerrysback
Adrian Keatley IRE – Mr Champers Martin Keighley – Ballymountain Boy Sophie Leech – Windshear
Charlie Longsdon – Monbeg Charmer Graeme McPherson – Skipthecuddles James Moon JER – Black Night Mouse Morris IRE – Wishmoor
Gary Moore – Benatar
Dr Richard Newland – Catamaran Du Seuil
Harry Whittington - Charlemar Evan Williams – De Dollar Man Ian Williams – Blue Rambler
 
Monalee won well today which adds substance to invitation onlys past run. Just have to hope he goes the AB and doesn't decide to tackle this race. He looked to appreciate the step up anyway so fingers crossed
 
DeeBee said:
Monalee won well today which adds substance to invitation onlys past run. Just have to hope he goes the AB and doesn't decide to tackle this race. He looked to appreciate the step up anyway so fingers crossed
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You'd maybe fancy IO to reverse the Monalee form on the better ground?
 
Kevloaf said:
You'd maybe fancy IO to reverse the Monalee form on the better ground?
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Possibly Kev yeah... i just think the race with DD before Christmas is possibly turning out to be the strongest irish novice form on offer. It wasnt the best of runs by IO at the time, but if he has his reasons (e.g. ground) and DD is as ruthless as is being made out.. then maybe those Neptune tickets are still looking strong
 
Old Vic said:
bay of freedom would be the man to find out for us ...
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Sorry for being so late guys - working hard this week for once! Peter and i had a long chat about this and he's planning to put him in both 2m 5f handicaps as well (Coral Cup and the Martin Pipe). Peter was disappointed after Warwick but I reminded him that the ground can get really 'gluey' there and Peregrine Run is a good ground horse. He stays the trip and his jumping is really good but he flattened the last two flights like a really tired horse. I think the Neptune is the right race and so does Roger Loughran; although I teased him in the bar last week that the Conditional Jockey's race (or, as he called it, the 'boys' race) was the obvious choice. On good ground, he would have , at least, a decent e/w chance in the Neptune and, I suspect, that's the way Peter is leaning although I wouldn't rule out the handicaps just yet. I may be over in a couple of weeks so should have something more definitive then
 
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Thanks for that bay of freedom
 
A horse definitely on my radar for Cheltenham. Has that all important course form.
 
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