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'THE' Ante Post EACH WAY Yankee 2017
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Wow, great to see you guys on this so early. 
My selection is not the best of price, but Moonracer 8/1 for Supreme still looks value at this stage. Track and ground shouldn't should be in his favour, add them to his record and 8/1 looks solid.
My selection is not the best of price, but Moonracer 8/1 for Supreme still looks value at this stage. Track and ground shouldn't should be in his favour, add them to his record and 8/1 looks solid.
I am in agreement with Faugheen_Machine and would like to put forward Robin Roe as my selection. 12/1 is available for the Neptune, were value in all of the festival markets is diminishing.
In his only hurdle race to date, he beat No Comment by 12 lengths. No Comment since has gone on to win twice and has an OR of 133.
Good ground seems ideal.
In his only hurdle race to date, he beat No Comment by 12 lengths. No Comment since has gone on to win twice and has an OR of 133.
Good ground seems ideal.
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Definitely for me OV, he eitehr heads for the Gold Cup or any jumping chinks he reverts back to the World Hurdle, he'd be a big price with me to line up in the RSA
Jono has put ADO up for the RSA I think... I do like that but would welcome other opinions as Thistlecrack is certainly taking a slice out of the market...
Not even 1% chance Thistlecrack will run in the RSA. I wouldn't put £1 on at 2000/1
Not even 1% chance Thistlecrack will run in the RSA. I wouldn't put £1 on at 2000/1
I'm going to top up on RR myself now, because if RR does win, this double figure price might disappear.... and I won't make the final selections until after NYD racing...
Plenty will change over Christmas, so we'll just have to ride it out... but I can't resist 1 pt EW on Robin Roe now
Plenty will change over Christmas, so we'll just have to ride it out... but I can't resist 1 pt EW on Robin Roe now
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Un de sceaux - Ryanair ? Has won and placed on two visits to festival - ground dependent for best maybe but seems obvious target - one exception to the Mullins rule 
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Cue Card being a possible for the Ryanair would make a selection in the Ryanair really tough now for this bet... unless we thought CC wouldn't turn up... but I think threre is a strong chance he will
Cue Card being a possible for the Ryanair would make a selection in the Ryanair really tough now for this bet... unless we thought CC wouldn't turn up... but I think threre is a strong chance he will
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I guess ADO is a much riskier option on this having bled today? At least until more news hopefully comes out over the next week
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I like Djakadam too, did me dosh on him in the Lexus but he's always spot on for Cheltenham and I don't think he was this week
We do indeed.
We've been really unlucky here (or lucky I suppose if you imagine we'd already placed the bet) as Robin Roe and Identity Thief are both no longer quoted for their intended targets after injuries, and Invitation Only, Jenkins and Alpha Des Obeaux have all drifted since originally selected.
I didn't really want to include any Mullins' horses (UDS, Djakadam, IO) because of the potential to get mugged regarding the target however we are a little thin on the ground with selections as it stands...
If people are concerned regarding ADO having bled over XMAS, we are only left with 3 so far (I think):
Moon Racer - Supreme 6/1
Gods Own - CC 20/1
Defi Du Seuil - Triumph 6/1
I am going to wait until Friday before the final selections, just to see if we can get any more potentials from anywhere!
The markets have been shaken up during the Christmas period and I think we can get a few more suggestions... especially if you've put one forward that is no longer in the mixe
I won't be putting my own cases forward and selecting them because that would defeat the point but I do think that looking at the markets in the championship races especially, there has to be each way value.
In the hurdle races we're still waiting for the Mullins runner to appear and therefore the uncertainty means we have some decent prices about 'sure' runners?
Similarly in the World Hurdle, the top 5/6 won't all be running so some of the prices will have to shorten.
In the 2 championship chases, we are looking at markets with odds on shots, we are getting a bigger price to place than we would to win if we can find ones against Douvan / Thistlecrack. We'll be getting a bigger price for the place than we would a win so certainly worth considering...
We've been really unlucky here (or lucky I suppose if you imagine we'd already placed the bet) as Robin Roe and Identity Thief are both no longer quoted for their intended targets after injuries, and Invitation Only, Jenkins and Alpha Des Obeaux have all drifted since originally selected.
I didn't really want to include any Mullins' horses (UDS, Djakadam, IO) because of the potential to get mugged regarding the target however we are a little thin on the ground with selections as it stands...
If people are concerned regarding ADO having bled over XMAS, we are only left with 3 so far (I think):
Moon Racer - Supreme 6/1
Gods Own - CC 20/1
Defi Du Seuil - Triumph 6/1
I am going to wait until Friday before the final selections, just to see if we can get any more potentials from anywhere!
The markets have been shaken up during the Christmas period and I think we can get a few more suggestions... especially if you've put one forward that is no longer in the mixe
I won't be putting my own cases forward and selecting them because that would defeat the point but I do think that looking at the markets in the championship races especially, there has to be each way value.
In the hurdle races we're still waiting for the Mullins runner to appear and therefore the uncertainty means we have some decent prices about 'sure' runners?
Similarly in the World Hurdle, the top 5/6 won't all be running so some of the prices will have to shorten.
In the 2 championship chases, we are looking at markets with odds on shots, we are getting a bigger price to place than we would to win if we can find ones against Douvan / Thistlecrack. We'll be getting a bigger price for the place than we would a win so certainly worth considering...
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I still like Moonracer at 6/1 as mentioned before Kevloaf. He has nothing but pros going for him with hardly any cons, the main one for me is him being a more developed horse than the rest of the novices, not to mention more experience over the track.
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I'd be happy with the selections above with Moon Racer. The only other horses I would put up would be:
Ballyoptic in the Stayers Hurdle at 25/1?
The WH market is still slightly up in the air right now and is sceptical to a strong Ricci runner but looking through the market now:
UNWIMH - worthy fav
Faugheen - CH?
VVM - ???
Nichols Canyon - more likely now after beaten by PM over xmas but was more likely for CH before that.
Jezki - missed intended target at xmas
Clondaw Warrior - ???
Yanworth - CH
The New One - CH?
Shaneshill - likely but linked in with NC
Snow Falcon - questionable if he'd have beaten Ballyoptic at Newbury before falling
Annie Power - CH / Mares?
Winter Escape - ???
Apples Jade - Mares
Ibis DU Rheu - Chasing
Jers Girl - Mares if anything
Barters Hill - injured
Saphir Du Rheu - couldnt touch him
Un de Sceaux - Ryanair / CC
Lil Rockafella - likely target but would have been beaten by Ballyoptic at Ascot if not for falling.
Killultagh Vic - injured / chasing and so on...
The world hurdle always does end up being a decent sized field whatever happens throughout the season but right now the vast majority of the field above either has other intended targets, has health/injury concerns or is a Mullins horse so are all linked and will be an unknown whether they run in this for a long time yet.
Ballyoptic has been put in his place by the fav twice now but before that run at Newbury was all the rage for this race and went off 5/2.
His win over Belshill at Aintree last Spring is strong and I get the impression he's a spring horse. Last year he didn't really get going until Feb/Marc time. Certain target too.
You'd have to be concerned with him falling twice this season though in both races he was well in contention to picking up a place. A run at Cheltenham would be good beforehand too. I presume he'll be a likely runner in the Cleeve hurdle?
It's not a strong choice by any means but i'm struggling to find much out there from an each way angle at the moment with so many question marks in a lot of the races and after ADO bled.
Ballyoptic in the Stayers Hurdle at 25/1?
The WH market is still slightly up in the air right now and is sceptical to a strong Ricci runner but looking through the market now:
UNWIMH - worthy fav
Faugheen - CH?
VVM - ???
Nichols Canyon - more likely now after beaten by PM over xmas but was more likely for CH before that.
Jezki - missed intended target at xmas
Clondaw Warrior - ???
Yanworth - CH
The New One - CH?
Shaneshill - likely but linked in with NC
Snow Falcon - questionable if he'd have beaten Ballyoptic at Newbury before falling
Annie Power - CH / Mares?
Winter Escape - ???
Apples Jade - Mares
Ibis DU Rheu - Chasing
Jers Girl - Mares if anything
Barters Hill - injured
Saphir Du Rheu - couldnt touch him
Un de Sceaux - Ryanair / CC
Lil Rockafella - likely target but would have been beaten by Ballyoptic at Ascot if not for falling.
Killultagh Vic - injured / chasing and so on...
The world hurdle always does end up being a decent sized field whatever happens throughout the season but right now the vast majority of the field above either has other intended targets, has health/injury concerns or is a Mullins horse so are all linked and will be an unknown whether they run in this for a long time yet.
Ballyoptic has been put in his place by the fav twice now but before that run at Newbury was all the rage for this race and went off 5/2.
His win over Belshill at Aintree last Spring is strong and I get the impression he's a spring horse. Last year he didn't really get going until Feb/Marc time. Certain target too.
You'd have to be concerned with him falling twice this season though in both races he was well in contention to picking up a place. A run at Cheltenham would be good beforehand too. I presume he'll be a likely runner in the Cleeve hurdle?
It's not a strong choice by any means but i'm struggling to find much out there from an each way angle at the moment with so many question marks in a lot of the races and after ADO bled.