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I’m struggling with Albert Bartlett market at present. There are very horses who have committed to this race or look credible challengers. I’ve got small stakes Stattler, Ashdale Bob, Holymacapony & Farouk D’alele but not sure if they’ll turn up in this race. Anyone backing any horses with much conviction in the AB so far or guessing??
 
I’m struggling with Albert Bartlett market at present. There are very horses who have committed to this race or look credible challengers. I’ve got small stakes Stattler, Ashdale Bob, Holymacapony & Farouk D’alele but not sure if they’ll turn up in this race. Anyone backing any horses with much conviction in the AB so far or guessing??

Very muddling race so far, i have only backed Farouk from a while back and will hold off for this until nrnb.

I wanted to see how Does he Know was going to do in the Challow but he was out of that race early.
 
I’m struggling with Albert Bartlett market at present. There are very horses who have committed to this race or look credible challengers. I’ve got small stakes Stattler, Ashdale Bob, Holymacapony & Farouk D’alele but not sure if they’ll turn up in this race. Anyone backing any horses with much conviction in the AB so far or guessing??

I have the ones you have mentioned then a few im guessing (hoping) may or might have been aimed at the AB but possibly changed my confidence in them now! Fakiera, Crosshill, Pipesmoker and Sayce Gold.

But for the benefit of this thread i don't think I've missed anyone, as nobody really standing out or taking this race by the scruff of the neck. Its arguably the widest open of the lot!
 
I’m struggling with Albert Bartlett market at present. There are very horses who have committed to this race or look credible challengers. I’ve got small stakes Stattler, Ashdale Bob, Holymacapony & Farouk D’alele but not sure if they’ll turn up in this race. Anyone backing any horses with much conviction in the AB so far or guessing??

I really like Farouk Dalene, The King Pimm. But Ive read and heard reports that he needs to go right handed..so Cheltenham would not play to ability. Ive backed Ashdale Bob and Holymacapony.
 
I’m struggling with Albert Bartlett market at present. There are very horses who have committed to this race or look credible challengers. I’ve got small stakes Stattler, Ashdale Bob, Holymacapony & Farouk D’alele but not sure if they’ll turn up in this race. Anyone backing any horses with much conviction in the AB so far or guessing??

Only horses I can think of that have actually been suggested for this race are Make Good and Streets of Doyen. In this article: https://www.racingtv.com/news/festival-return-on-agenda-for-make-good
 
I'd add Vanillier to those already mentioned. Beaten by Farouk D'alene, but easy to see why he would be totally suited to this race and why he can reverse form. He looks the perfect Bartlett horse to me.
 
I’m struggling with Albert Bartlett market at present. There are very horses who have committed to this race or look credible challengers. I’ve got small stakes Stattler, Ashdale Bob, Holymacapony & Farouk D’alele but not sure if they’ll turn up in this race. Anyone backing any horses with much conviction in the AB so far or guessing??

N'golo @ 25/1 will be my first bet in the race. He'll fly under the radar because he's untried over further than 2m, but on paper he should relish a step up in trip and he leaves me visually thinking the same thing when I watch him race. I am almost certain his future will lie over further and I am hoping WPM sends him straight over 3m next time out to see how he gets on. He did the same with Penhill when he won the AB. Came off the flat like N'golo, raced 3 times over 2m before stepped up to 3m before going on to win the AB.
 
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I'd add Vanillier to those already mentioned. Beaten by Farouk D'alene, but easy to see why he would be totally suited to this race and why he can reverse form. He looks the perfect Bartlett horse to me.

I disagree . Vanillier was fit and Farouk was all out exhausted. I think possibly carrying a cold as many are of G.Elliot stable currently. I have FD at least 8L clear of Vanillier at his best.
 
As with many of the novice hurdle markets this time of year there are many question marks over what race they’ll end up in. I’m sure Thyme Hill, Latest Exhibition & Fury Road were gearing up for the AB with really soft ground being the only reason to divert this time last year so they were easier to back. I’ve got Ngolo as a TWAR but will keep an eye out for a 3 mile entry. Will Shadow Rider be good enough for the AB??
 
I disagree . Vanillier was fit and Farouk was all out exhausted. I think possibly carrying a cold as many are of G.Elliot stable currently. I have FD at least 8L clear of Vanillier at his best.

Farouk is a bigger winner for me so I hope you're right, but I still have some lingering doubts about him. You could be right about him not sparkling like some of Gordon's runners, but not all have been flat. The Storyteller being another notable example. Farouk ran plenty well enough and showed significant improvement between races to suggest he has given his running. He'll improve again no doubt, but so will Vanillier who would have won in a matter of strides.

Vanillier was beaten a head, has a run style that will likely suit the race specifically. The Bartlett is also over further on the stiff new course, and that's the area that I have doubts about Farouk D'alene, and why I think it's possible that Vanillier goes past him in March. 33/1 is certainly too big a price to pass up given all of that, and he's surely one to have onside each way rather than running against you.
 
Farouk is a bigger winner for me so I hope you're right, but I still have some lingering doubts about him. You could be right about him not sparkling like some of Gordon's runners, but not all have been flat. The Storyteller being another notable example. Farouk ran plenty well enough and showed significant improvement between races to suggest he has given his running. He'll improve again no doubt, but so will Vanillier who would have won in a matter of strides.

Vanillier was beaten a head, has a run style that will likely suit the race specifically. The Bartlett is also over further on the stiff new course, and that's the area that I have doubts about Farouk D'alene, and why I think it's possible that Vanillier goes past him in March. 33/1 is certainly too big a price to pass up given all of that, and he's surely one to have onside each way rather than running against you.

Im not sure the AB will be more of a test than that race Spectre. A negligible increase in distance, but the ground really was horrific.
 
I’m struggling with Albert Bartlett market at present. There are very horses who have committed to this race or look credible challengers. I’ve got small stakes Stattler, Ashdale Bob, Holymacapony & Farouk D’alele but not sure if they’ll turn up in this race. Anyone backing any horses with much conviction in the AB so far or guessing??

Have a look at Streets of Doyen TKP. He has the perfect profile for the race and his form is stacking up very nicely. Still a working mans price at 40/1 with the cashout
 
Farouk is a bigger winner for me so I hope you're right, but I still have some lingering doubts about him. You could be right about him not sparkling like some of Gordon's runners, but not all have been flat. The Storyteller being another notable example. Farouk ran plenty well enough and showed significant improvement between races to suggest he has given his running. He'll improve again no doubt, but so will Vanillier who would have won in a matter of strides.

Vanillier was beaten a head, has a run style that will likely suit the race specifically. The Bartlett is also over further on the stiff new course, and that's the area that I have doubts about Farouk D'alene, and why I think it's possible that Vanillier goes past him in March. 33/1 is certainly too big a price to pass up given all of that, and he's surely one to have onside each way rather than running against you.

Im concerned that FD prefers a R/H course to perform at optimum.
 
We can agree to disagree on Vanillier CCM. But needless to say my counter is the stiff pace and course in a novice championship race over 3 miles more than compensates.

I'm with you on Streets of Doyen by the way. The only reason I haven't already backed him is because I'm waiting for NRNB for him because I suspect he's very much ground dependent.
 
Im concerned that FD prefers a R/H course to perform at optimum.

Yes, me too. Only a small one though. He definitely adjusts right which isn't ideal, but it was definitely an improvement on first time up, and they'll be working on it you'd presume.

It's that combined with being unsure he's a thorough Stayer. Bartlett winners usually are, and I reckon he's got a bit more speed than your average Bartlett winner. That said class will win through if they don't go too hard, and he may end up being the best horse long term.
 
We can agree to disagree on Vanillier CCM. But needless to say my counter is the stiff pace and course in a novice championship race over 3 miles more than compensates.

I'm with you on Streets of Doyen by the way. The only reason I haven't already backed him is because I'm waiting for NRNB for him because I suspect he's very much ground dependent.

Im certainly not anti Vanillier Spectre. Didn't mean to come across that way and can absolutely see where you are coming from. There was very little between them at the end of the day. I just think better spring ground will suit Farouk more than it will Vanillier.

If anything its made me fancy Crosshill even more. He absolutely demolished Vanillier first time up. He was disappointing last time, but 2m was surely too sharp and Power of Pause could still be a very good horse.
 
Yes, me too. Only a small one though. He definitely adjusts right which isn't ideal, but it was definitely an improvement on first time up, and they'll be working on it you'd presume.

It's that combined with being unsure he's a thorough Stayer. Bartlett winners usually are, and I reckon he's got a bit more speed than your average Bartlett winner. That said class will win through if they don't go too hard, and he may end up being the best horse long term.

You don't win that race at Limerick on that ground and not be able to stay well enough for a bartlett.
He only got tired due to the injection of pace he put in, that left the others gasping. And possibly yard wellness (blah de blah)
Seems perfect for bartlett as on better ground he'd have the class and on softer he's showed he can stay.
I suppose a real well run slog might not be ideal, as there may be an absolute nutter running who has a death wish.

Gavin Lynch pointedly mentioned to not back him for Cheltenham (referring to the right handed bias), however, this may have just been his opinion and not due to him having heard things from connections.

IMO, due the the hurdles positions, as I've previously said somewhere, it's not (jumping right) such a problem on the bartlett course, and he jumped straight the other day too.
So any yard decision based on the one bizarre run to never go left handed again would be idiotic.
 
Lets hope FD gets there. Im on at 40s with Lads with some nice fancied shorties .
 
Im certainly not anti Vanillier Spectre. Didn't mean to come across that way and can absolutely see where you are coming from. There was very little between them at the end of the day. I just think better spring ground will suit Farouk more than it will Vanillier.

If anything its made me fancy Crosshill even more. He absolutely demolished Vanillier first time up. He was disappointing last time, but 2m was surely too sharp and Power of Pause could still be a very good horse.

Wierdly I've just posted about Power Of Pause. Crosshill will surely be one for the Ballymore. No rush to back him yet though.
 
We can agree to disagree on Vanillier CCM. But needless to say my counter is the stiff pace and course in a novice championship race over 3 miles more than compensates.

I'm with you on Streets of Doyen by the way. The only reason I haven't already backed him is because I'm waiting for NRNB for him because I suspect he's very much ground dependent.

Would love to see Streets of Doyen go for the Pertemps off his mark.


Still hoping Crosshill will be the one for the AB but want to see him back over a trip. Not sure why they were running him over 2 last time.