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2015 Champion Hurdle

Vaniteux

We sort of stayed over hurdles with what will hopefully be a top-class chaser. I’d be disappointed, whatever happens this year, if this time next year we’re not talking about a potential Arkle horse. He hasn’t seen good ground this year, but he’s run three very solid races. I don’t know whether he didn’t stay, he’s been beaten by three very good horses in three top-class races, but he’s still bang on the doorstep. We could wait for the two-and-a-half miles at Aintree, but if it’s it good ground he’ll run in the Chanpion. He’s had a little freshen-up when the ground was bad and he’s coming into it fresh and well.
 
MrMcGoldrick said:
Day 1 yankee selection, have to change because my original pick was The Young Master who looks more like going to the RSA.

So, selection is Hurricane Fly.
Has done it twice, has arguably the best form this season, is, I would say, comfortably the best jumper in the field, seems in better form than last year at the same time, slight niggle in run up to last seasons fez, Mullins confident he'll run a big race, no doubt about his target, and could be first 11 year old to win this since Sea Pigeon
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Sorry Mr Mc, love this horse but couldn't be ploughing in on the fly at this stage. No chance on good ground. However if it's soft ground then he could run into a place.
 
Mytentoryours said:
Sorry Mr Mc, love this horse but couldn't be ploughing in on the fly at this stage. No chance on good ground. However if it's soft ground then he could run into a place.
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True Tenty. Can't really gamble on the weather, this is an ap value acca after all. Though this is down to Mayo. :)
 
OV - please can you unlock Mayo's day 1 yankee thread.

Also thanks for moving the acca threads to this forum. :encouragement:
 
Mytentoryours said:
Sorry Mr Mc, love this horse but couldn't be ploughing in on the fly at this stage. No chance on good ground. However if it's soft ground then he could run into a place.
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You pays yer money you takes yer chance Tenty, I'm loaded up on Faugheen but I've been squirreling ew savers onto the Fly, I too love this horse and I can't have him out of the three, he's the one I fear, good soft or worse.
 
Have already mentioned him on the Neptune thread but wil re-iterate here for clarity.

Day 2 Selection: Ordo ab Chao
Race: Neptune
Odds: 16/1 generally

I've been sweet on him for a while. Won a grade 2 lto beating the highly regarded value at risk and vago Collognes at Cheltenham so already has proven course form. Alan King regards him as one of his best novices in the yard and he should improve for better ground. On top of his obvious credentials there is also the fact that the neptune market is beginning to cut up nicely. Nicolls canyon is the clear favourite but arguably should be going for the supreme. I reckon he will stay but his best flat ratings all came on soft ground, as did his performance last time out and I'm hopeful his front running style over a longer distance could set the race up. Parlour games and outlander come next and they have obvious chances. Then there is Windsor park and better ground is likely to see him go for the Albert Bartlett. Then there are the likes of Shanehill (supreme), kilcrea vale (unlikely to line up) and tell us more (also not guaranteed to line up). If all went well Ordo ab Chao could well end up being about 4th in the neptune market with an obvious chance and I can guarantee he won't be 16/1 nearer the day when all the non-runners are taken out.
 
Lessey said:
Have already mentioned him on the Neptune thread but wil re-iterate here for clarity.

Day 2 Selection: Ordo ab Chao
Race: Neptune
Odds: 16/1 generally

I've been sweet on him for a while. Won a grade 2 lto beating the highly regarded value at risk and vago Collognes at Cheltenham so already has proven course form. Alan King regards him as one of his best novices in the yard and he should improve for better ground. On top of his obvious credentials there is also the fact that the neptune market is beginning to cut up nicely. Nicolls canyon is the clear favourite but arguably should be going for the supreme. I reckon he will stay but his best flat ratings all came on soft ground, as did his performance last time out and I'm hopeful his front running style over a longer distance could set the race up. Parlour games and outlander come next and they have obvious chances. Then there is Windsor park and better ground is likely to see him go for the Albert Bartlett. Then there are the likes of Shanehill (supreme), kilcrea vale (unlikely to line up) and tell us more (also not guaranteed to line up). If all went well Ordo ab Chao could well end up being about 4th in the neptune market with an obvious chance and I can guarantee he won't be 16/1 nearer the day when all the non-runners are taken out.
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OV - please move this to day 2 Yankee please.

Lessey - like the suggestion btw, also plenty of blues across ochecker yesterday!
 
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Forced Kin said:
Dunraven
P Hobbs: Hurricane Fly will let everybody down soon, can't trust the Montjeus. (The Coolmore table nearby are well impressed!)
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From a 2012 preview. The Fly lost the battle and won the war...certainly hasnt let anyone down.
 
Old Vic said:
From a 2012 preview. The Fly lost the battle and won the war...certainly hasnt let anyone down.
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Ye, 3 years on, talk about P.Hobbs with egg on his face, his thinking will have been tarnished though by the fact that he couldn't have kept HF at the top, I don't think anyone could have done what Mullins has. My own thinking on HF though is biased because he owes me absolutely nothing, I picked up a small fortune when he won this in 2013, and I've milked the market in probably 15 of his 22 grade one wins, the talk before all of them however has remained the same, "I think [pick a horse] will do him for toe" or "He's coming to a point where top class opposition is too much for him", or my personal fav "He only wins around Leopardstown and in small fields"
 
Did anyone stumble over this article in the Daily Star that was on published on 19/02?

“If Hurricane Fly was two years younger he would be the clear favourite instead of Faugheen. People say Hurricane Fly does not run his best at Cheltenham but I disagree. He’s two from four and there are valid excuses for those defeats.

“He’s better than he was last year. My heart is with Hurricane Fly but I think probably what the bookmakers say may be right.”

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/ho...ys-Douvan-star-50-runners-Cheltenham-Festival
 
loveracing said:
Did anyone stumble over this article in the Daily Star that was on published on 19/02?

“If Hurricane Fly was two years younger he would be the clear favourite instead of Faugheen. People say Hurricane Fly does not run his best at Cheltenham but I disagree. He’s two from four and there are valid excuses for those defeats.

“He’s better than he was last year. My heart is with Hurricane Fly but I think probably what the bookmakers say may be right.”

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/ho...ys-Douvan-star-50-runners-Cheltenham-Festival
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I had read that quote, it's inline with what I've mentioned a few times, if you went purely on which horse has done what this season you would be all over the Fly, I'd love to see him win, even though I will collect by far the most if Faugheen does the business. I can't see him being out of the three, bet to nothing if I'm right, in fact still a decent profit at 8/1.
 
MrMcGoldrick said:
I had read that quote, it's inline with what I've mentioned a few times, if you went purely on which horse has done what this season you would be all over the Fly, I'd love to see him win, even though I will collect by far the most if Faugheen does the business. I can't see him being out of the three, bet to nothing if I'm right, in fact still a decent profit at 8/1.
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Am I reading the last bit wrong?

“He’s better than he was last year. My heart is with Hurricane Fly but I think probably what the bookmakers say may be right.”

That to me says Faugheen is the more likley winner?
 
loveracing said:
Am I reading the last bit wrong?

“He’s better than he was last year. My heart is with Hurricane Fly but I think probably what the bookmakers say may be right.”

That to me says Faugheen is the more likley winner?
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With Ricci having so many horses in the yard I'm sure Willie just wants to be diplomatic and is obviously trying to get his message across that there's not as much between these two as everyone thinks, the words "probably" and "may" suggest a lack of committment to the statement
 
If a horse or 2 at the top end of he market fluffs his lines something tells me Purple Bay could sneak a place at 50's.
 
I'm fed up of the hype surrounding Faugheen....this horse aint an even money shot in my book.It hasnt beaten anything this season and imo Jezki has been underestimated.Jezki hasnt been given any credit for winning a fast run champion last season and backed it up with a convincing win against the fly at Punchestown.This horse is the same age as Faugheen and already has a champion hurdle in the bag, I think come the day a lot of punters will look back and say why didnt we back Jezki!!
 
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