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Handicap Shortlist - Cheltenham 2020

Discorama entered for a pertemps qualifier on the 28th he'd be 1 that would interest me of his hcap mark with him having half decent festival form
 
Early Doors holds an entry over a very inadequate 2m1f beginners chase which is slightly strange, gives the impression they may be trying to get a mark over his next two runs rather than go the NH chase route. Ultimately his 3rd run will tell you the route whether hes over 2m7+(as you need two runs over that distance to qualify for the Nh) or another run over far too short then poss the Kim muir/Ultima thou Kim Muir on the New course and extra distance would be favourable surely.
 
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Gardens of babylon has a couple of entries, one in the pertemps Q, really liked him in that leop juven tril behind sir erec, been running over 2m and finishing with plenty left in the tank, trainer keeps saying he's going up in trip but has of yet held off, rated 140 with festival form, personally think a martin pipe horse, can gett 25s twar, 33s for MP.
 
Birds Nest said:
Gardens of babylon has a couple of entries, one in the pertemps Q, really liked him in that leop juven tril behind sir erec, been running over 2m and finishing with plenty left in the tank, trainer keeps saying he's going up in trip but has of yet held off, rated 140 with festival form, personally think a martin pipe horse, can gett 25s twar, 33s for MP.
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Hes deffinately interesting and one I looked at yesterday, i'd like to see him all the way up at 3m in the pertempts, rather than near top weight in a martin pipe.
 
Scooby91 said:
Hes deffinately interesting and one I looked at yesterday, i'd like to see him all the way up at 3m in the pertempts, rather than near top weight in a martin pipe.
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I agree, although my thoughts on the MP are based on o'brien winning it last year with the top weight, so might still be an option for him. Must say the pertemps entry threw me a bit but I'm warming to the 3m theory, thanks Scooby.
 
Not sure if archie is about, but.
Shanning county hurdle?
 
Mohaayed and Countister didn't seem to be knocked about too much yesterday. May drop a lb or 2 ready for a crack at something.
 
Scooby91 said:
Not sure if archie is about, but.
Shanning county hurdle?
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Picked up an injury in October and coming to the end of a period of box rest. I'd have thought that Cheltenham will come too soon but the prognosis is good for a full recovery.
 
Pretty sure he's been mentioned on here at some point, "Tedham" holds two entries of which one is the Pertemps qualifier at Wincanton. Now 365 have him 12/1 for that and hills have him at 40s big disparity, and bound to have his supporters again (always seems fancied)if he runs a steady 3/4/5/6 on boxing day.
 
Nwfb89 said:
Discorama entered for a pertemps qualifier on the 28th he'd be 1 that would interest me of his hcap mark with him having half decent festival form
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Was just about to post this! Very interesting entry for a horse with two Festival seconds to his name. Rated 11lb lower over hurdles than fences. Only 16/1 any race and 20/1 with Hills for this specific race... was hoping for a bit better tbh but will definitely be adding if he does take up this engagement.
 
Outlaw said:
Pretty sure he's been mentioned on here at some point, "Tedham" holds two entries of which one is the Pertemps qualifier at Wincanton. Now 365 have him 12/1 for that and hills have him at 40s big disparity, and bound to have his supporters again (always seems fancied)if he runs a steady 3/4/5/6 on boxing day.
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I thought the 28/1 was fair but 44/1 (boosted) seems very generous. A quiet qualifying ride on boxing day would be appreciated
 
Faugheen_Machine said:
I thought the 28/1 was fair but 44/1 (boosted) seems very generous. A quiet qualifying ride on boxing day would be appreciated
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Decs are tomorrow for boxing day i believe so come 11am ill be looking to see if at Wincanton . If so yeah no brainier at the price want to get The storyteller added to the market too tbh but guaranteed if asking to be added will install him as fav at 16/1 or lower.
 
The Storyteller is never going to be a big price when first quoted. WH have him at 14/1 Any Race. Would be surprised if he opened up much longer for the Pertemps, unless a bookie makes an error.

He has two entries in Pertemps races over Christmas racing, of ourselves more likely to take up his Irish entry, to plan to finish in the first six there.

Same issue with Sire Du Berlais 12/1 any race with WH, only 10/1 Pertemps with 365.
 
Outlaw said:
Pretty sure he's been mentioned on here at some point, "Tedham" holds two entries of which one is the Pertemps qualifier at Wincanton. Now 365 have him 12/1 for that and hills have him at 40s big disparity, and bound to have his supporters again (always seems fancied)if he runs a steady 3/4/5/6 on boxing day.
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Scholfield said he was looking forward to riding Tedham at Wincanton
 
Tedham for the Pertemps. Now he’s declared for the Wincanton race on Boxing Day I’m happy to assume that’s the target and take the 40s on offer with Hills.
 
I just wonder if Tedham is going to be one of them horses who we all always back but doesn’t get the job done.......
 
FaugheenTheMachine said:
I just wonder if Tedham is going to be one of them horses who we all always back but doesn’t get the job done.......
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Quite possibly but he's only ran 8 times and his last two races have been full of promise.

He's most likely going to get a featherweight in the Pertemps and Jonjo is great at setting one up for the big day. 40/1 will be closer to 10/1 on the day imo.
 
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