Ballymore Novice Hurdle 2019

[ComplyOrDie]

Just got in and watched Battleoverdoyen, and subsequently missed the better prices, but he certainly impressed me.

Samcro was all the rage last season and done no different to what Battleoverdoyen did today, yet you can still get 20's for the latter, I think Samcro was somewhere around the 5/1 mark from memory.

Momus would be no mug to make your hurdles debut against, being only 2 3/4 lengths behind Defi Blue (finished 3rd in the Grade 2 @ Navan today) LTO & 4 3/4 lengths behind a well regarded Sancta Simona on his hurdles debut so to do what Battleoverdoyen did today on debut has me quite excited by him.

I will be jumping on board, and agree that whichever of himself or Tornado Flyer win @ Naas, should they both turn up for that, will rightly be favourite. I think he may well go into many multiples after that performance too.

FWIW I can still see TF coming back in trip myself.

 

[SeanRock]

The kennel gate.
It's a well known supreme route for hendo.

Have covered him for the Supreme now too despite my gut & his breeding telling me he’ll be better over further. Bonus of 365’s cash out option!

 

[JackieMoon33]

Might well be Mister Fisher he prefers to send here.

I’m glad to see Mister Fisher has another entry. After his disappointing debut I was going to cash him out if I didn’t see him over the Xmas period.

 

[Innoko]

Just got in and watched Battleoverdoyen, and subsequently missed the better prices, but he certainly impressed me.

Samcro was all the rage last season and done no different to what Battleoverdoyen did today, yet you can still get 20's for the latter, I think Samcro was somewhere around the 5/1 mark from memory.

Momus would be no mug to make your hurdles debut against, being only 2 3/4 lengths behind Defi Blue (finished 3rd in the Grade 2 @ Navan today) LTO & 4 3/4 lengths behind a well regarded Sancta Simona on his hurdles debut so to do what Battleoverdoyen did today on debut has me quite excited by him.

I will be jumping on board, and agree that whichever of himself or Tornado Flyer win @ Naas, should they both turn up for that, will rightly be favourite. I think he may well go into many multiples after that performance too.

FWIW I can still see TF coming back in trip myself.

Cracking Smart went to Naas and ended up being the one for the AB, any danger this lad could do the same?

 

[Innoko]

I’m glad to see Mister Fisher has another entry. After his disappointing debut I was going to cash him out if I didn’t see him over the Xmas period.

He's obviously well regarded. Entry in itself suggests that, hoping he runs!

 

[ComplyOrDie]

Cracking Smart went to Naas and ended up being the one for the AB, any danger this lad could do the same?

I think not, Cracking Smart never went over 2m over hurdles, this lad has plenty enough pace for this race.

Battleoverdoyen may not end up at Naas but comments suggest he could do.

 

[Scooby91]

Cracking Smart went to Naas and ended up being the one for the AB, any danger this lad could do the same?

Ofcourse, if he gets outpaced and beat.
You'd like to think that won't happen though.

 

[Kevloaf]

Ruby rode easy game with surpreme confidence could he end up ballymore?

I took an immediate view and thought Albert Bartlett so backed it with 365.

I think the 35/1 available with Lads is a big price however you get the impression they've got ones better than him.

Ruby Walsh took the brave man's route up the inner and had a willing partner who wasn't flustered by the traffic congestion. Once the gap came, he found a smart turn of foot to see off stablemate Getareason by two lengths.

Mullins admitted that Easy Game continues to surprise him and faced up to the fact that he must now come under consideration for Cheltenham.


Before then, the Lawlor's of Naas Novice Hurdle on January 6 could be his first crack at Grade 1 level.


Mullins said: "He has come under the radar and he keeps surprising me. I didn't think he would be this successful to be perfectly honest with you.


"I suppose that puts him in our Cheltenham picture now and we'll give him an entry in the Grade 1 at Naas next month now, although most of our past winners of this race had only had one run.


"He's had six now and won four of them. He's got a very different profile to my other winners and has had a busy season."



On the runner-up, Getareason, Mullins added: "He showed he has an engine and jumped better today. I think he's up to winning Graded races."


This Grade 2 has an illustrious roll of honour and Easy Game follows Mikael D'Haguenet (2008), Boston Bob (2011), Pont Alexandre (2012), Briar Hill (2013), Bellshill (2015) and Next Destination (2017) in winning for Mullins.


He is now generally a 20-1 shot (from 33) for the Ballymore Novices' Hurdle at the Festival. Mikael D'Haguenet is the only Mullins-trained horse to do the double.

 

[Chris]

Just got in and watched Battleoverdoyen, and subsequently missed the better prices, but he certainly impressed me.

Samcro was all the rage last season and done no different to what Battleoverdoyen did today, yet you can still get 20's for the latter, I think Samcro was somewhere around the 5/1 mark from memory.

Momus would be no mug to make your hurdles debut against, being only 2 3/4 lengths behind Defi Blue (finished 3rd in the Grade 2 @ Navan today) LTO & 4 3/4 lengths behind a well regarded Sancta Simona on his hurdles debut so to do what Battleoverdoyen did today on debut has me quite excited by him.

I will be jumping on board, and agree that whichever of himself or Tornado Flyer win @ Naas, should they both turn up for that, will rightly be favourite. I think he may well go into many multiples after that performance too.

FWIW I can still see TF coming back in trip myself.

Iets have little look at what he beat today, in my view nothing the 3rd I would beat myself, Ok he looked good however his time was 3 seconds slower than Envoi Allens time. So he's not for me plus mullins seems to hold all the aces.

 

[Folski]

Iets have little look at what he beat today, in my view nothing the 3rd I would beat myself, Ok he looked good however his time was 3 seconds slower than Envoi Allens time. So he's not for me plus mullins seems to hold all the aces.

Bumpers are usually faster than hurdles races as there are no obstacles to jump, also carrying 4lb more.

 

[Kevloaf]

Iets have little look at what he beat today, in my view nothing the 3rd I would beat myself, Ok he looked good however his time was 3 seconds slower than Envoi Allens time. So he's not for me plus mullins seems to hold all the aces.

Battleoverdoyen was 14.3 seconds slower than standard time
Envoi Allen was 20.2 seconds slower than standard time

He's had to jump over 10 hurdles :encouragement:

 

[Scooby91]

Battleoverdoyen was 14.3 seconds slower than standard time
Envoi Allen was 20.2 seconds slower than standard time

He's had to jump over 10 hurdles :encouragement:

He's also next year's ballymore fav. Undoubtedly.

 

[jack1092]

As Kev has rightly said, those times are fairly irrelevant in rating BOD. Elliot seems to suggests it here he’ll go.

Not impossible he could go to the Supreme if he hurdles nice and fluently from the front..

 

[Scooby91]

Battleoverdoyen.

“We think he’s a nice horse. He improved a lot from his run the last day in the bumper and he’ll improve again for his first run over hurdles,” said Elliott.

“He jumped very well and a step up in trip the next day will suit him. He stays very well. He’ll probably go to Naas next (for the Lawlor’s Of Naas Novice Hurdle, Grade 1 on January 6th) all being well.”

 

[JackieMoon33]

Battleoverdoyen.

“We think he’s a nice horse. He improved a lot from his run the last day in the bumper and he’ll improve again for his first run over hurdles,” said Elliott.

“He jumped very well and a step up in trip the next day will suit him. He stays very well. He’ll probably go to Naas next (for the Lawlor’s Of Naas Novice Hurdle, Grade 1 on January 6th) all being well.”

The Lawlors Novice Hurdle is traditionally more of a pointer towards the Ballymore isn’t it?

 

[ComplyOrDie]

Iets have little look at what he beat today, in my view nothing the 3rd I would beat myself, Ok he looked good however his time was 3 seconds slower than Envoi Allens time. So he's not for me plus mullins seems to hold all the aces.

I guess this has been explained by other forum members, but it will come as no shock I'm sure, but to say I agree with what they have said in reply to yourself.

 

[Scooby91]

The Lawlors Novice Hurdle is traditionally more of a pointer towards the Ballymore isn’t it?

It's the main ballymore trial. For sorting out between ballymore / Albert bartlett
Only bellshill dropped Back, to make room for yorkhill.

 

[Scooby91]

The Lawlors Novice Hurdle is traditionally more of a pointer towards the Ballymore isn’t it?

2018 next destination.

2017 Death Duty 6 11-10 J W Kennedy 5/6Fav (Gordon Elliott)
2016 Bellshill 6 11-10 R Walsh 2/5Fav (W P Mullins)
2015 Mckinley 5 11-7 P Townend 33/1 (W P Mullins)
2014 Briar Hill 6 11-10 R Walsh 1/3Fav (W P Mullins)
2013 Rule The World 6 11-3 D N Russell 7/1 (M F Mo


Samcro was meant to go last year was entered until the last minute, but had a minor setback.

 

[Scooby91]

Samcro

"He will go to Naas in the first week in January for the Lawlor's Grade One hurdle," said Elliott.



"We entered him (this weekend) to keep our options open, but the plan was to go to Naas.

"To be honest, he has done everything well, but he has to keep improving. He has lot of improvement to do, which we hope he does.

"He is a good horse. I'm very lucky, I've got a lot of good horses."


Then missed it due to a setback.

 

[jack1092]

I'm more surprised that he's gone hurdling this year; i suppose he's 5 turning 6, but judging by Elliot's quotes there's been a change of plan alright.

28Nov18 Punchestown (16Gd, RPR 126)

Battleoverdoyen is a smart horse. He's one for the future. He's still only a baby and he might be one for a 2m3f bumper at Naas in the new year - Gordon Elliott, trainer

The "baby" comment also lends itself to running over slightly further than a Supreme i'd suggest. Only reason i could see him going for the Supreme is if they have a lot of options for this and 3miler.....As Elliot seems to be short of a 2mile hurdler. Unlikely tho.