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Ascot champions day 2021

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  • Ascot champions day 2021

    Champion sprint
    Creative force 8/1

    QE2
    Alcohol free 10/1

    Champion stakes
    Mac Swiney 25/1

    Fillies and mares
    Wonderful tonight 6/1

  • #2
    Creative force is a great shout, never had a clear run at July cup and hopefully more room to manoeuvre back at Ascot.

    Mac Swiney is getting to be a bit of a cliff horse for me, are you thinking he'll get his ground again or is it something else that's made him worth another go for you?

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    • #3
      Originally posted by That Horse View Post
      Creative force is a great shout, never had a clear run at July cup and hopefully more room to manoeuvre back at Ascot.

      Mac Swiney is getting to be a bit of a cliff horse for me, are you thinking he'll get his ground again or is it something else that's made him worth another go for you?
      All 4 bets have been placed in the hope that its soft ground by mid October

      If it is soft wonderful tonight, mac swiney and alcohol free will love the ground. The softer the better in fact.

      Mac Swiney and wonderful tonight are both a stone better horse on soft ground.


      And baeed/palace pier become possible non runners on very soft so 10s alcohol free then becomes good value if one doesn't run

      Starman won't run on soft which makes creative forces job easier and over 6f at the top level I think he needs a stiff track and soft ground to make it a stamina test

      Snowfall and tarnawa are currently 1st and 2nd fav for the fillies and mares and both must be pretty unlikely runners. Wonderful tonight is much the best of the rest on soft ground and won the race last year so will surely run.
      Last edited by FinalFurlong91; 29 August 2021, 12:35 PM.

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      • #4
        Hills have pushed creative force out to 12s after today

        Thats a solid price, thought he ran well today on a flat track on rattling fast ground

        He simply doesn't have the speed to win in those conditions

        A bit of soft ground and a stiff track should see him to better effect over 6f id think

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        • #5
          The weather forecast between now and champions day looks pretty clear for ascot

          We might actually get decent ground for once

          Tempted to back starman at 6s

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          • #6
            Big Move today with paddy power and betfair clipping Baaeed from 9/4 into 13/08 for the QEII. Any news to back this up??

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            • #7
              Starman will miss the Qipco British Champions Sprint Stakes and has been retired to stud

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              • #8
                FinalFurlong91 , i agree with Alcohol Free. Been looking at her this evening. On a line through Poetic Flare she doesn't have tonnes to find with Palace Pier.

                Baaeed similarly looks a rocket, but his win vs Order of Aus isn't that great getting 4. I don't think on a line through him she's 10/1 vs the other two.

                Also, how often do we see big "showdowns" plagued with them underperforming? Feels like it happens too often.

                This is the flat version of Monkfish vs Envoi....and the mare (filly) wins!

                The Revenant a stinking price on anything but a bog.


                I'd be tempted with Search for a Song in the LDC if she's dec'd. Weld has option for France, probably easier, but likely to be worse ground. Issue is will they even leave Trueshan in here if there's little or no rain. Might miss the price on her.

                I'd also be tempted with Kinross, but i don't know if he's running- presume he is.



                Last edited by jack1092; 11 October 2021, 07:46 PM.

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                • #9
                  Yes id be similarly dubious about the strength of baaeeds form

                  that moulin was very weak

                  For me palace pier should be clear fav and baaeed 3/1

                  Il be tempted to place lay him on the day if its long odds on, i suspect he will either win or bomb out

                  Really alcohol free has miles better form than baaeed its just a question of whether she's had too many races this season, if not I fully expect her to outrun her odds
                  Last edited by FinalFurlong91; 12 October 2021, 09:45 PM.

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                  • #10
                    Manobo for Long Distance cup if he runs

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                    • #11
                      Bet 365 have just pushed manobo out to 16/1 for the LD Cup..... I see Buick is jocked up so looks like he runs and after quick look on twitter, no obvious reason for the crazy 'drfit' or NR news... Have just taken it with cash out as it was too tempting with the rest of the market mostly 8s.. is there any news ive missed?

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                      • #12
                        Long distance cup
                        Hamish 11/2 win money back 2nd-4th

                        Fillies and mares
                        Eshaada 8/1 e/w 3 places

                        Champion stakes
                        Adeyybb 11.0 win
                        Al Aasy 20/1 e/w 4 places

                        Balmoral handicap
                        Kenzai warrior 25/1 e/w
                        Raise you 20/1 e/w
                        Both 6 places


                        Extra plays for tomorrow

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                        • #13
                          Permed a few doubles and trebles with the following;

                          1:25 - Hamish, Baron Samedi 2:00 - Creative Force, Minzaal
                          3:10 - Master of the seas
                          3:50 - Sealiway

                          stuck my ?5 free bet from B365 on Sealiway

                          Will wait and see how the Balmoral prices end up tomorrow, or may have thrown the towel in by that stage


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                          • #14
                            Who is going through the card tomorrow then....

                            Selections.....

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
                              Who is going through the card tomorrow then....

                              Selections.....
                              I might go through the card with losers haha

                              I'm taking on everything that ran on Arc day

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