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The ULTIMA Handicap Chase

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  • #31
    FWIW ben’s yard like a bet....

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Istabraq View Post

      They may well have been using the Hennessy as the starting point for the 'ratings crash' that he needs but I'm confused why they started the horse out over hurdles at the Charlie Hall meeting, why not run the horse in the inadequate Charlie Hall itself ?

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      his jumping isn’t great at times so maybe an early season pipe opener over hurdles is just what was required. His 148 hurdle mark leaves no room for anything at all, and so it’s a nice start to a quiet season perhaps....plus imagine if he ran ok in the Charlie Hall - then what becomes of his season target?

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      • #33
        Originally posted by dannycraigpirates View Post
        .plus imagine if he ran ok in the Charlie Hall - then what becomes of his season target?
        If he'd ran OK in the Charlie Hall it would have proved he is a graded horse, not a handicapper...

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        • #34
          I think he probably is that quality in all honesty.....

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          • #35
            Kildisart added to hills any race @ 25/1

            Just spoken to somebody who works at the yard. The National is the main aim this season. Will be going over hurdles NTO, and then probably a couple of goes over jumps - I imagine to get the mark in working order. Maybe I’ve talked myself out of backing it, but it appears to be the obvious race at the festival for him, and he will be shorter than that on the day
            Last edited by dannycraigpirates; 2 December 2020, 05:19 PM.

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            • #36
              Would you have any insight into how much they fancy Le Breuil this weekend? Thanks

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              • #37
                Originally posted by PaisleyPark View Post
                Would you have any insight into how much they fancy Le Breuil this weekend? Thanks
                ....no idea, but 125-1 (before boost) with Hills to win & the GN. 80-1 Sky.
                Last edited by Eggs; 2 December 2020, 08:23 PM.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by PaisleyPark View Post
                  Would you have any insight into how much they fancy Le Breuil this weekend? Thanks
                  Yup should run well. Plenty of money and Kielans up “which is a positive

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                  • #39
                    Excellent I backed it a couple of weeks ago, good to know they are confident.

                    Also thanks Eggs I hadnt seen those odds

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                    • #40
                      Discorama 33-1 with Unibet - pretty decent for a horse who went off 11-2 joint favourite in March and was beaten two-and-a-half lengths.

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                      • #41
                        Setting myself up here for a lashing but interested in hearing anyone’s thoughts
                        i know Willie’s record with handicap chasers at the festival before I ask
                        does anyone have an opinion or an idea where Ontheropes might be targeted ?
                        seems to be an Antepost gamble on him for the paddy power at leopardstown
                        if he was to win or be placed there could he come here ?
                        the main reason I ask is the owners are mad keen to have as many Cheltenham winners as possible and he is not good enough for the Marsh or Rsa

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Liammet View Post
                          Setting myself up here for a lashing but interested in hearing anyone’s thoughts
                          i know Willie’s record with handicap chasers at the festival before I ask
                          does anyone have an opinion or an idea where Ontheropes might be targeted ?
                          seems to be an Antepost gamble on him for the paddy power at leopardstown
                          if he was to win or be placed there could he come here ?
                          the main reason I ask is the owners are mad keen to have as many Cheltenham winners as possible and he is not good enough for the Marsh or Rsa
                          Wasn’t there talk about him for the 4 miler?

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by dannycraigpirates View Post

                            Wasn’t there talk about him for the 4 miler?
                            I would of thought they would of ran him over a qualifying distance for the 4 miler on his last race if they were
                            would need to place in the paddy power then in another race between that and Cheltenham
                            doesn’t leave any margin for error/fall

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                            • #44
                              Already qualified from last season. The top 4 placing element of the qualifying criteria doesn’t have to be fulfilled that season.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by ToniC View Post
                                Already qualified from last season. The top 4 placing element of the qualifying criteria doesn’t have to be fulfilled that season.
                                I do see one run from last year when he was fourth to smoking gun
                                i thought he needed to finish in top three
                                his other runs don’t seem to qualify him because they are too short in distance unless I have missed something
                                the paddypower could do it though

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