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  • Originally posted by somer1 View Post
    Any one had dealings with a tipster called Newmarket mole? Got someone asking me about signing up for 40 pounds a month but i have never heard of him?
    No idea who they are but its probably safe to assume that they only warrant a well known two word phrase in response that rhymes with 'f**k off'.

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    • No idea where the whole Champion Bumper runs debate was on here but adding this here - the rule changes for 23/24:

      The following changes will be introduced for the start of the 2023/24 season:

      1. A maximum of three runs permitted in National Hunt Flat races.

      The only exceptions will be where:
      • the fourth run is in the Grade 1 Champion Bumper at Cheltenham, or the Grade 2 NHF at Aintree. Where the fourth run is in the Grade 1 Champion Bumper at Cheltenham, a further fifth run is permitted in the Grade 2 NHF at Aintree.
      • In the case of fillies and mares, a fourth run is permitted in either the Listed Mares’ NHF at Sandown in March or the Grade 2 Mares’ NHF race at Aintree. If the fourth run is in the Listed Mares’ NHF at Sandown in March then a further fifth run is permitted in the Grade 2 Mares’ NHF race at Aintree.

      2. 6-year-olds no longer permitted to run in National Hunt Flat races after the final day of the Jump season (in any given Season commencing from the 2023/24 Season).

      ^ My interpretation of point 2 is that a horse currently 5-yo can run in bumpers from January 1st 2024 until the last day of the 2023/24 jumps season.

      In the case of Aurora Vega, Gowran Park will be her third run so the option of running in the Champion Bumper is open but could not run until the Festival if she runs on Friday.

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      • Have just looked at previous Bumper winners and was surprised to see that 10 have won this century having had their debut Bumper runs between March and June the previous year including this year's winner ADTS.

        We may have already seen the 2024 winner !

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        • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
          Have just looked at previous Bumper winners and was surprised to see that 10 have won this century having had their debut Bumper runs between March and June the previous year including this year's winner ADTS.

          We may have already seen the 2024 winner !
          I wonder who you've got in mind

          That is a surprising stat though.

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          • Originally posted by Exar Essay View Post

            I wonder who you've got in mind

            That is a surprising stat though.
            I'm astonished by that stat to be honest!
            Lobos - are you sure you didn't have too much rum when checking the data?

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            • Originally posted by Exar Essay View Post

              I wonder who you've got in mind

              That is a surprising stat though.
              Haven't a clue! Not looked at any of the early winners.

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              • Originally posted by JackieMoon33 View Post

                I'm astonished by that stat to be honest!
                Lobos - are you sure you didn't have too much rum when checking the data?

                I was astonished too. Not had a drop. Maybe that's the problem

                Someone else double check for me.

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                • I haven't time at the moment to check what I'm about to say, but I used to hold and use this stat to try and unearth the Champion Bumper winner. However, and I stand to be corrected, A Dream To Share is the first horse for some time to meet the stat, and it had previously gone cold which is why I dropped it.
                  Luck is a dividend of sweat. The more I sweat, the luckier I get.

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                  • Originally posted by Spectre View Post
                    I haven't time at the moment to check what I'm about to say, but I used to hold and use this stat to try and unearth the Champion Bumper winner. However, and I stand to be corrected, A Dream To Share is the first horse for some time to meet the stat, and it had previously gone cold which is why I dropped it.
                    Yes I went back 11 years, and in that time there were 3. ADTS (2023), Moon Racer (2015), Silver Concorde (2014).

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                    • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
                      Have just looked at previous Bumper winners and was surprised to see that 10 have won this century having had their debut Bumper runs between March and June the previous year including this year's winner ADTS.

                      We may have already seen the 2024 winner !
                      Can’t of me West Country Cousin. Qualimita hasn’t run under rules

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                      • Originally posted by Exar Essay View Post

                        Yes I went back 11 years, and in that time there were 3. ADTS (2023), Moon Racer (2015), Silver Concorde (2014).
                        You missed Fayonagh 2017 who was the last before this year. So 4 in the last 10 runnings.
                        Last edited by Lobos; 28 September 2023, 07:48 PM.

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                        • Originally posted by somer1 View Post

                          Can’t of me West Country Cousin. Qualimita hasn’t run under rules
                          I'm with you on that one

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                          • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                            You missed Fayonagh 2017 who was the last before this year
                            So I did. She was the only one I actually knew without checking too! Doh

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                            • Originally posted by Exar Essay View Post

                              So I did. She was the only one I actually knew without checking too! Doh
                              She won it for Gordon but her early debut was for another trainer. 40% in the last 10 runnings is not to be sniffed at.

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                              • RR on Lossiemouth....

                                “She’s a lovely horse and we won’t campaign her the same way we did with Vauban as it’s just too hard for them coming out of juvenile company,” the Champion Hurdle-winning owner said. “We think she is a very special filly.
                                “We think she is a Champion Hurdle filly, but I’d say we’ll go down the Mares’ Hurdle route this year and then the Champion Hurdle the season after.

                                “She is a top-class filly, maybe one of the best I have owned, and remember I have had Annie Power and Benie Des Dieux."

                                High praise indeed.

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