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  • Is there a particular horse you are repeatedly rolling up?

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    • Originally posted by HoldenTheReins View Post
      Is there a particular horse you are repeatedly rolling up?
      Rightly or wrongly I use roll ups to boost the price of shorties.
      Elimay is one I have been using and will continue to do so but that’s because I don’t see any value in her 7/2 ish price but find an even money shot to go with her and you have a 7/1 voucher.

      I also think the Gold Cup is a good race to use roll ups, for me there are only 4 max 5 realistic contenders and it’s not unrealistic to get all of these in your book at 20/1+ by using short priced roll ups….

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      • Originally posted by Istabraq View Post

        Rightly or wrongly I use roll ups to boost the price of shorties.
        Elimay is one I have been using and will continue to do so but that’s because I don’t see any value in her 7/2 ish price but find an even money shot to go with her and you have a 7/1 voucher.

        I also think the Gold Cup is a good race to use roll ups, for me there are only 4 max 5 realistic contenders and it’s not unrealistic to get all of these in your book at 20/1+ by using short priced roll ups….
        Agreed, GDC for the RSA at 8/1 I've been rolling up. Elimay is a shout to get rolled up also, can't see what might take her on this year.

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        • Just a thought....with Colreevy smashing Monkfish and Monkfish sitting at the head of the GC betting, is there a case to make for Mullins sending Elimay down the Gold Cup route in view of her close 2nd to Colreevy in the Mares Chase????

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          • Is there a case yes. Will Willie give up a odds on shot (which she will be on form if she turns up) in a race at Cheltenham for a speculative punt at a harder race?

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            • Originally posted by HoldenTheReins View Post
              Is there a particular horse you are repeatedly rolling up?
              Swiw in mares hurdle

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              • Originally posted by Trap5 View Post

                Swiw in mares hurdle
                Short and sweet. Quite often very telling. Very much like SWIW.

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                • Originally posted by HoldenTheReins View Post
                  Is there a particular horse you are repeatedly rolling up?
                  Building my whole festival around Bob Olinger.

                  and I haven’t started my diary yet - but for the record I’d my first roll up today with Golden Pal in the Nunthorpe (2 pts)

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                  • Originally posted by OverTheLast View Post

                    Building my whole festival around Bob Olinger.

                    and I haven’t started my diary yet - but for the record I’d my first roll up today with Golden Pal in the Nunthorpe (2 pts)
                    Is that for a specific race or are you spreading across all possible entries ?
                    Like most in here I have the Marsh as his favoured target but wouldn’t dismiss the 3m race and some have made cases for the Arkle…

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                    • Probably been quite foolish in being tunnel vision for the Marsh so far. I was saying to a friend last week that 5/2 any race is quite fair imo but a pain you can’t put it in multiples. What’s your thoughts?

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                      • If you’ve been built up a strong position on Bob for the Marsh there’s no need for you to play ‘any race’ singles as cover, just go and get the fancy prices about the Arkle and 3m.
                        As for multi’s, Hills allowed ‘any race’ selections to be added to multis last year for a limited period, no idea if they’ve repeated that yet, plenty have Hills accs so I’m sure someone will be able to confirm.
                        5/2 any race doesn’t scream value for me but I’d be happy adding that to an Elimay (Mares chase) for a 15/1 double….

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                        • Originally posted by Istabraq View Post
                          If you’ve been built up a strong position on Bob for the Marsh there’s no need for you to play ‘any race’ singles as cover, just go and get the fancy prices about the Arkle and 3m.
                          As for multi’s, Hills allowed ‘any race’ selections to be added to multis last year for a limited period, no idea if they’ve repeated that yet, plenty have Hills accs so I’m sure someone will be able to confirm.
                          5/2 any race doesn’t scream value for me but I’d be happy adding that to an Elimay (Mares chase) for a 15/1 double….
                          No, Hills aren't letting you put twar in multis, like you said they allowed it for a while last year but were only allowing one from each section in them.

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                          • I've had a go at quite a few roll-ups, or 'settled bets' as my various accounts prefer to call them.

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                            • Nothing original here as I’m pretty sure SW has previously made the case on his thread but I’m going to make a couple of other recent points concerning Golden Pal for the Breeders Cup Turf Sprint at 3/1 with Bet365

                              3/1 was the price Golden Pal was cut to following his stylish return to the race track last month. However since then we have had Battaash, his nearest rival in the betting beaten for a second time then retired, and the winner Suesa while looking a real threat in The Nunthorpe it would appear very unlikely that she will be heading Stateside as her main target in a busy season is the Abbeye at Longchamp in October.

                              I think Golden Pal would really have to stink the house out in The Nunthorpe for 365 to lengthen his price for the Breeders Cup (target is nailed on) so if you weren’t impressed there would be a reasonable chance you can cash for 5% loss (assuming he isn’t cut before then) and if he wins as many of us hope it’s not inconceivable he goes off odds on for the Breeders Cup.

                              Oddschecker are only showing that 365 have a price after Unibet cut Golden Pal to 11/10 then took down their market on the back of the Battaash news. That said Skybet have 3/1 requestsbet and Ladbrokes are 11/4. I think 3/1 with cash out on the back of the Goodwood race is pretty decent roll-up option

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                              • Bit of a reverse roll up

                                But Derby to go down at anything over 1/2 seems a lovely double

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