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Stayers Hurdle 2021

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  • Originally posted by Rooster Booster View Post

    This is the biggest compliment I can think of. Taking an hour off from this forum can cost you money.
    ...still 40-1 with 365 cash option & I dare say there’ll be plenty of tempting offers in the ‘win today’ market nearer the time.

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    • Originally posted by Eggs View Post

      ...still 40-1 with 365 cash option & I dare say there’ll be plenty of tempting offers in the ‘win today’ market nearer the time.
      Absolutely Eggs. I have him at ok prices in the exchange. Not at Charlie’s level so I do have bet envy. The option I am thinking now is placed in Cleeve and placed in stayers as he strikes me as that kind of horse.

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      • Originally posted by Rooster Booster View Post

        Absolutely Eggs. I have him at ok prices in the exchange. Not at Charlie’s level so I do have bet envy. The option I am thinking now is placed in Cleeve and placed in stayers as he strikes me as that kind of horse.
        If you ask RB I'd love to know what odds they come back with.

        I think fences are only half the problem with Itchy Feet, and Olly Murphy has been getting his trip wrong with intermediate trips. Against Imperial Aura (163) at Ascot he makes 5 mistakes that cost him at least a length. 2 out and he's 8L back, and loses 5L running on past Real Steal (163). As I've noted, vs Dashel Drasher he made a load of mistakes, to the point where I was surprised Gavin persisted. He was 15L back 2 out, then goes down 2L to a horse that's won since.

        All his best work this season has been at the end of his races which just screams 'give me further'. He was a good hurdler so I am really quite confident of a decent showing in the Cleeve, hence why I am keen to know what price we get on place both.

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        • Originally posted by charlie View Post

          If you ask RB I'd love to know what odds they come back with.

          I think fences are only half the problem with Itchy Feet, and Olly Murphy has been getting his trip wrong with intermediate trips. Against Imperial Aura (163) at Ascot he makes 5 mistakes that cost him at least a length. 2 out and he's 8L back, and loses 5L running on past Real Steal (163). As I've noted, vs Dashel Drasher he made a load of mistakes, to the point where I was surprised Gavin persisted. He was 15L back 2 out, then goes down 2L to a horse that's won since.

          All his best work this season has been at the end of his races which just screams 'give me further'. He was a good hurdler so I am really quite confident of a decent showing in the Cleeve, hence why I am keen to know what price we get on place both.
          7-1 Skybet, i guess you were hoping for better

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          • Originally posted by Joleg View Post

            7-1 Skybet, i guess you were hoping for better
            10s with hills. I think that’s a par price.

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            • Originally posted by charlie View Post

              If you ask RB I'd love to know what odds they come back with.

              I think fences are only half the problem with Itchy Feet, and Olly Murphy has been getting his trip wrong with intermediate trips. Against Imperial Aura (163) at Ascot he makes 5 mistakes that cost him at least a length. 2 out and he's 8L back, and loses 5L running on past Real Steal (163). As I've noted, vs Dashel Drasher he made a load of mistakes, to the point where I was surprised Gavin persisted. He was 15L back 2 out, then goes down 2L to a horse that's won since.

              All his best work this season has been at the end of his races which just screams 'give me further'. He was a good hurdler so I am really quite confident of a decent showing in the Cleeve, hence why I am keen to know what price we get on place both.
              Repeating so it comes up on your notification Charlie. 10s with Hills

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              • Originally posted by Rooster Booster View Post

                Repeating so it comes up on your notification Charlie. 10s with Hills
                Thats kind of you RB, thank you. Not as big as I'd hoped tbh. Think il leave it for now.

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                • Originally posted by Joleg View Post

                  7-1 Skybet, i guess you were hoping for better
                  Big time. Sea of blue is Itchy and 9/2 v PP. Really hope they clash.

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                  • Anyone know if anything has been said around Paisley not running if the ground is too deep on Saturday?

                    I would be rather concerned if he ran in heavy this close to the festival - could have the same effect that Ascot had on horses last year when pitching up to the festival.

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                    • As a mare who would be receiving the 7lb in March; does anyone like Great White Shark for either tomorrow or the Stayers?

                      Must admit not one I’ve had on my radar but was in the mix in the Martin Pipe last year and has won both the Galway Hurdle (beating Flooring Porter) and the Cesareawitch since then.

                      PP have at 20/1 NRNB which for me probably isn’t big enough given she is yet to prove up to this class over hurdles but think she is probably a decent bet for tomorrow.

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                      • Originally posted by RufusFlynn View Post
                        As a mare who would be receiving the 7lb in March; does anyone like Great White Shark for either tomorrow or the Stayers?

                        Must admit not one I’ve had on my radar but was in the mix in the Martin Pipe last year and has won both the Galway Hurdle (beating Flooring Porter) and the Cesareawitch since then.

                        PP have at 20/1 NRNB which for me probably isn’t big enough given she is yet to prove up to this class over hurdles but think she is probably a decent bet for tomorrow.
                        I like her as a bet for both, I'd want the Stayers bet to be with the possibility of cash out I think, as she'd need to win well enough tomorrow for me to keep the bet.

                        I'm undecided how to play her currently and will make some sort of decision in the morning.

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                        • Originally posted by RufusFlynn View Post
                          As a mare who would be receiving the 7lb in March; does anyone like Great White Shark for either tomorrow or the Stayers?

                          Must admit not one I’ve had on my radar but was in the mix in the Martin Pipe last year and has won both the Galway Hurdle (beating Flooring Porter) and the Cesareawitch since then.

                          PP have at 20/1 NRNB which for me probably isn’t big enough given she is yet to prove up to this class over hurdles but think she is probably a decent bet for tomorrow.
                          I really liked her on the flat but just can’t warm to her as a hurdler. I think she loses ground at hurdles and she won’t get away with that in the stayers. Maybe they have done loads of schooling with her to get her sharper but she hasn’t looked a natural to me. I know it’s not as important over this trip as say 2m but if your losing 1/2 a length here and there it soon mounts up and far from ideal in a championship race.

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                          • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post

                            I like her as a bet for both, I'd want the Stayers bet to be with the possibility of cash out I think, as she'd need to win well enough tomorrow for me to keep the bet.

                            I'm undecided how to play her currently and will make some sort of decision in the morning.
                            Would you see her as the best of the Irish for this then? I can see her winning easily tomorrow as don’t really think there is much depth to the race - as in I can’t see any of the others in the places come March. Bacardys is a frustrating horse for me as I’ve backed him each year in the stayers but probably just never quite good enough. (Looking back through his form - didn’t realise he had been to the Fest every year since 2016!)

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                            • Originally posted by RufusFlynn View Post

                              Would you see her as the best of the Irish for this then? I can see her winning easily tomorrow as don’t really think there is much depth to the race - as in I can’t see any of the others in the places come March. Bacardys is a frustrating horse for me as I’ve backed him each year in the stayers but probably just never quite good enough. (Looking back through his form - didn’t realise he had been to the Fest every year since 2016!)
                              On all known form definitely not. Sire Du Berlais, Fury Road, Ronald Pump and even Flooring Porter (even though she'd beat him previously) have won better races than her to date. She needs to prove it first, which is why if she doesn't win today I could easily write her off. This is a weak enough renewal today, IMO.

                              I've never managed to get Bacardys right, I just feel he was somewhat overrated because of an fairly decent novice hurdle campaign, where he failed to fire at the festival anyway. His form is generally very hit and miss.

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                              • Think I'll back Sams Profile for this before he runs today. Bit of a risky one since he's been all over the place recently but hopefully back over hurdles will get him back on track. Pretty sure he was being aimed at this originally last year but had a setback. Don't have access to NRNB right now but think 66/1 NRNB is a good price.

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