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Has anyone had a Cheltenham 2022 punt yet

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  • Originally posted by charlie View Post
    For me the long term strategy underpinning my ante post approach for the next 6-8 months will be to sparingly back the Irish and generally ignore the British. There will be infrequent exceptions, but I think that will form the basis of a profitable ante post approach.

    There is no over-reaction or recency bias to that, 23-5 has been a long time coming. Irish winners since 2014 have been steadily rising - 12, 13, 15, 19, 17, 14, 17, 23. There is a clear statistical trend tilted in their favour, and there hasn't been a top British trainer at Cheltenham since 2013.

    This year will live long in the memory of the likes of Paul Nicholls and Dan Skelton, and I can see them opting to wait for Aintree more in 2022 based on what's happened this year. They just don't seem to have the fire power. Don't get me wrong, both are excellent trainers who have hundreds of runners and win millions of pounds, but they seem to lack at the top table and it shows. Nicky in his old age seems to be losing the plot and didn't really have a good Cheltenham by his standards, and its hard to see where British talent is going to emerge from. Hobbs has been extremely quiet, Pipe didn't do well at Cheltenham and the Champion jockey here didn't even ride at Cheltenham.

    My view ante post is the Irish dominance is here and its here to stay. The numbers in recent years are so heavily weighted towards the Irish. Since 2017 there have been 140 races at Cheltenham and Willie, Gordon and HDB have won 72 races between them. That's over half races won by three trainers alone. I know they represent the major Irish firepower, but this is super impressive. I look at Willies and Gordons stables, and in particular Henry's, and see nothing but upward trajectory. They are getting stronger not weaker, as opposed to the above who are getting weaker, not stronger.
    WPM, GE and HBD winners between 2017 - 2021 goes up to 60% in the following races.

    Ryanair - 4/5
    Arkle - 3/5
    Supreme - 3/5
    Ballymore - 3/5
    Marsh - 3/5
    Gold Cup - 3/5



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    • Originally posted by Garrison Savannah View Post
      charlie If you have access to Unibet, they have Galopin Des Champs priced up at 40/1 for the RSA.
      Thank you for this. Now 20/1

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      • Flooring Porter as a easy winner who’s improved all year is a cracking price at 8s with Ladbrokes to retain his crown! Think that is huge. I’m very very keen and he’s my only bet so far.

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        • Originally posted by charlie View Post

          Thank you for this. Now 20/1
          Pleasure mate - hope it hits just like the Concertista to place bet that you made me aware of

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          • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
            The search starts now for the next Galvin.........
            Pure Genius is the one Lobos. The plan started on the 18th January.
            Luck is a dividend of sweat. The more I sweat, the luckier I get.

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            • Originally posted by Spectre View Post

              Pure Genius is the one Lobos. The plan started on the 18th January.
              We know what we are looking for. A horse who runs through the summer to gain valuable experience, trained by Gordon or Willie, owned by Ronnie Bartlett, gets qualified by October and then rests up for 5 months. Stattler may fit the bill. Let's see if he keeps going through the summer. Have done PG on the back of trainer comments. Easy game this.....
              Last edited by Lobos; 23 March 2021, 11:54 PM.

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              • I wonder would anyone else have more luck trying to add Burning Victory to the Mares Hurdle market with B365? I was refused by the traders this morning.

                Also just wondering have B365 taken away the cashout on Cheltenham 2022 bets for anybody else! Placed my first last night & no cashout option.

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                • Originally posted by SeanRock View Post
                  I wonder would anyone else have more luck trying to add Burning Victory to the Mares Hurdle market with B365? I was refused by the traders this morning.

                  Also just wondering have B365 taken away the cashout on Cheltenham 2022 bets for anybody else! Placed my first last night & no cashout option.
                  Done 8 bets so far with B365. 7 available to cash out, only My Drogo for Marsh unavailable

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                  • Originally posted by Sprinter Sacre View Post

                    Willie - “It’s a shame Ferny Hollow had his setback, but he’s recovering well. Whether he runs at Punchestown, we’re not quite sure yet, it may be that we’ll put him away and make sure he’s 200 per cent for next season."


                    Yes hes been put away for next year apparantly, shame we wont see him

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                    • Originally posted by SeanRock View Post

                      Also just wondering have B365 taken away the cashout on Cheltenham 2022 bets for anybody else! Placed my first last night & no cashout option.
                      Appears to be my Anteposts in the Marsh and Bumper. Rest seem ok

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                      • Brandy Love for the Mares Novice at 25's I think will prove to be a good bet
                        Best of Willies bumper mares going jumping and just seems to have not fired the last day from what they had expected

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                        • Originally posted by Crolwey113 View Post
                          Brandy Love for the Mares Novice at 25's I think will prove to be a good bet
                          Best of Willies bumper mares going jumping and just seems to have not fired the last day from what they had expected
                          Completely agree. Must admit, the Upping the Ante lads put me on to her back in December and I've been keeping an eye since. There was even some speculation she might've gone hurdling last year which never came to fruition of course. I've had a small bit on her today. Problem is, it looks a good crop this year. Elle est Belle and Eileendover could head here too ... mind you, they could be good enough to have a crack at the Supreme.

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                          • I wouldn't be rushing to back any of Willie's P2P recruit mares for the race. This years winner is the only P2P recruit to date to win the race.

                            I'd mainly looking at his French imports once again, but I'd be much more interested in Grangee given her breeding which is full of very good hurdlers and the way she just swept past Brandy at the DRF.

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                            • Originally posted by Exar Essay View Post

                              Completely agree. Must admit, the Upping the Ante lads put me on to her back in December and I've been keeping an eye since. There was even some speculation she might've gone hurdling last year which never came to fruition of course. I've had a small bit on her today. Problem is, it looks a good crop this year. Elle est Belle and Eileendover could head here too ... mind you, they could be good enough to have a crack at the Supreme.
                              Yeah they hold her in very high regard in Closutton , big enough price for me to back her at this stage. I will put a line through her last run for now, before the Lep weekend Patrick was looking forward to riding her more than Kilcruit which tells its own story.

                              Ew Double with SWIW in the Mares for me.

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                              • Re Shewearsitwell, does anyone think she could end up in the champion hurdle? WM did say she could be one of the best novices they had this season.

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