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Request-a-Bets (was 'Sky Bets' thread)

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  • Bob O is still 5/2 to place in any race with Hills (5 places)

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    • ....perhaps a little anomaly: Sky have a RaB @ 16-1 for Energumene to win any Festival novice Chase yet it’s 8-1 in their a/r market.

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      • What might be interesting to track this year in RAB is the odds to go unbeaten all season ie do they bets come in, were they actually value when SP's in the range of 1/7, 1/16 so far on Shishkin & Envoi

        The ones which stick out which I saw
        • Envoi unbeaten 8/1
        • Shishkin unbeaten 7/1
        • Envoi & Shishkin 100/1
        • Epatante 12/1 (I think is still 12/1 with PP)
        • Ballyadam & Envoi 80/1 (to a lesser extent)

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        • Originally posted by Eggs View Post
          ....perhaps a little anomaly: Sky have a RaB @ 16-1 for Energumene to win any Festival novice Chase yet it’s 8-1 in their a/r market.
          They regularly make mistakes

          there was a treble I had last year that was 33/1 for three horses to win any races

          the same bet but with one of the horses to win a specific race was 20/1

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          • ....the Sky RaB of 14-1 for Shiskin to win 2022 CC seems a stand-out.

            Hills offer 6-1, whilst Ladbrokes offer 10-1 and PP 9-1 for Arkle/CC double.

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            • The 225/1 double (Max stake - 20 pounds) on Shishkin to win 2022 Champion Chase and Envoi Allen to win the gold Cup in 2022 is hugely appealing with SkyBet........

              compared to.........

              the 100/1 quadruple (!) of Shishkin to win Arkle 2021/Champion Chase 2022 & Envoi Allen to win any race 2021/ Gold Cup in 2022 with William Hill ????????????!!!!!!!!


              To be clear.......


              To win 2 races 16 months out - 225/1
              To win all 4 races 3 months out - 100/1

              ???????????????

              Or to win 2 races 3 months out - Best price 15/2.


              Take your pick. But looking at those 2 horses, I know where I’d be investing my money right now.....
              Last edited by EnvoyAllen; 25 November 2020, 09:23 PM.

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              • Originally posted by EnvoyAllen View Post
                The 225/1 double (Max stake - 20 pounds) on Shishkin to win 2022 Champion Chase and Envoi Allen to win the gold Cup in 2022 is hugely appealing with SkyBet........

                compared to.........

                the 100/1 quadruple (!) of Shishkin to win Arkle 2021/Champion Chase 2022 & Envoi Allen to win any race 2021/ Gold Cup in 2022 with William Hill ????????????!!!!!!!!


                To be clear.......


                To win 2 races 16 months out - 225/1
                To win all 4 races 3 months out - 100/1

                ???????????????

                Or to win 2 races 3 months out - Best price 15/2.


                Take your pick. But looking at those 2 horses, I know where I’d be investing my money right now.....
                Max stake for you.... not everyone

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                • ....the 225-1 has gone and Shishkin CC/Envoi GC double is now 150-1 with Sky.

                  I still think the value is 14-1 Shishkin to win 2022 QMCC, given its 6-1 with Hills and Ladbrokes go just 10-1 Arkle/CC double.

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                  • Originally posted by Eggs View Post
                    ....the 225-1 has gone and Shishkin CC/Envoi GC double is now 150-1 with Sky.

                    I still think the value is 14-1 Shishkin to win 2022 QMCC, given its 6-1 with Hills and Ladbrokes go just 10-1 Arkle/CC double.
                    The 150/1 was up at the same time, as a few times same bets up at different prices! just hope no poor sods jumped on it rather than the 225. If I'm honest if the 150 was my only option I would have backed it at that price.

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                    • Originally posted by Big Bucks View Post

                      The 150/1 was up at the same time, as a few times same bets up at different prices! just hope no poor sods jumped on it rather than the 225. If I'm honest if the 150 was my only option I would have backed it at that price.
                      ....the individual prices with Sky are; Shishkin to win 2022 CC 14-1; Envoi to win the 2022 GC 16-1, so the 225-1 was value. Saying that, Shishkin is as low as 6-1 for the CC with Hills, so some might see that 150-1 as still being decent.

                      I can only think most firms see the CC as weak and one where Shishkin could rule. Hopefully that 14-1 will look very generous at the end of March.

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                      • Ballyadam, Column of Fire and Epatante all to win any race 250-1, appears to be one of the better priced RAB's

                        it's dependent on all 3 making the festival, but if these 3 were of interest the price seems generous whilst Ballyadam and COF have options

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                        • ....Ladbrokes have permed selections with an offer;

                          Ferney Hollow or Flinteur Sacre (Supreme); Shishkin (Arkle); Appreciate it or Ballyadam (Ballymore); Envoi (Marsh. 80-1 with boost.

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                          • Originally posted by Eggs View Post
                            ....Ladbrokes have permed selections with an offer;

                            Ferney Hollow or Flinteur Sacre (Supreme); Shishkin (Arkle); Appreciate it or Ballyadam (Ballymore); Envoi (Marsh. 80-1 with boost.
                            I can't work that out as to whether it's excellent or terrible

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                            • Originally posted by Eggs View Post
                              ....Ladbrokes have permed selections with an offer;

                              Ferney Hollow or Flinteur Sacre (Supreme); Shishkin (Arkle); Appreciate it or Ballyadam (Ballymore); Envoi (Marsh. 80-1 with boost.
                              At first glance it looks ok. However, there must still be doubts over where Ferney Hollow, Ballyadam and Appreciate It turn up and Flinteur Sacre hasn't even jumped a hurdle yet. Plus we are still 4 months out, all of them still need to get there in one piece, and then get round safely. When you think about all that 80/1 suddenly looks terrible!

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                              • basically its 2/1 for each pick. Thats fine for Shishkin and Envoi but crap for the other 2 options. Need to be over 200/1 IMO

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