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    Carlingford Lough: John Kiely trained horse to follow

    CARLINGFORD LOUGH (IRE) b. G, 2006
    DP = 4-0-6-4-0 (14) DI = 1.00 CD = 0.29
    Trainer : John Kiely
    Owner: John P McManus
    Breeder: Kenilworth House Stud

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    After race at Galway Sat, 4th Aug, 2012 (1st) It's nice to have a horse like him and he'd have liked the ground a bit drier. Today's win is some compensation for missing the big hurdle on Thursday. Looking at the winner of that though (Rebel Fitz), I'm not sure if we'd have beaten him. John E Kiely

    After race at Bellewstown Sat, 7th Jul, 2012 (1st) That was comfortable enough. He has always had a bit of class. John E Kiely

    After race at Galway Mon, 25th Jul, 2011 (1st) To be honest he's surprised me as I didn't expect him to jump so well. The plan was to give him a good look at his hurdles as he's so inexperienced. He's a promising horse, and hopefully there is more to come. He's really a chaser. John E Kiely

    After race at Roscommon Tue, 5th Jul, 2011 (1st) He ran a lovely race on his debut and it brought him on a good bit. Hopefully we will find something for him now before long. He is by the right stallion and it's a pity he is gone (King's Theatre, who died just last month). John E Kiely

    Gary O'Briens 3 to follow

    CARLINGFORD LOUGH has become a real favourite of mine in his brief career to date and the best is almost certainly still to come from John Kiely's gelding. An effortless winner of valuable handicap hurdles at Bellewstown and Galway this summer, he is still open to any amount of improvement after just seven career starts and is sure to have learned plenty from his chase bow back at Ballybrit in September. He is best on good ground but handles soft well enough and could easily be a Cheltenham contender under either code.

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    Irish National possible

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    Irish National possible
    Right idea Wrong race

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    Carlingford Lough only made it into the field for the www.thetote.com Galway Plate at the 11th hour but his late inclusion paid dividends as he landed a gamble in the festival showpiece.
    The John Kiely-trained seven-year-old was first reserve for the race after a full field of 22 horses were declared, but the withdrawal of fellow JP McManus-owned runner on account of the rain-softened ground allowed the ante-post favourite take his place in the race.
    Partnered by Tony McCoy, Carlingford Lough was sent off the 7-2 market leader in one of the most competitive races of the season but his supporters endured a nail-biting few minutes as the result looked far from certain some way out.
    Mr Cracker set a testing early gallop and Fosters Cross and Tranquil Sea looked likely to be major players as the field approached the penultimate fence in the two-mile-six-furlong heat, with Carlingford Lough coming under pressure and seemingly having plenty to do.
    However, McCoy’s famed never-say-die will to win came into play on the long run for home as
    Carlingford Lough emerged from the pack to stake his claim with only around 100 yards to go. Fellow McManus runner Quantitativeeasing was in front with the post in sight, but a late lunge from McCoy saw the favourite grab glory by a length and a half.
    Jacksonslady made it a one-two-three for McManus in third with Muirhead completing the frame in fourth.
    Kiely said: “It’s lovely to have horses for JP as he always has good ones. “This horse had a few niggly problems and he (McManus) had patience with him all the time. “He just came right and we trained him for this. “You can’t do it without the horse and he gave me the time to do what I wanted with him.”
    Kiely continued: “I was disappointed at first when he was only first reserve but I thought there’d be a few non-runners with the ground changing. Indeed, I didn’t think the ground would be ideal for us either. I’ve won a Plate now and two (Galway) hurdles so it doesn’t get much better than that — I can retire now.
    “It’ll depend on Mr (Frank) Berry as to where this horse goes next. He won’t run in the winter anyway as the ground will be too soft.”
    Berry, racing manager to McManus, said: “It’s brilliant. I didn’t know how he’d go when the rain came but he got a great ride from AP (McCoy) and stayed on well up the hill.”
    McManus added: “I was watching my other runners for most of it but in the end AP lifted his fella home. It’s just great to win it.”
    McCoy was quick to divert the praise to the horse, Kiely and McManus. “The horse was very brave, he had a tendency to jump left which is not ideal around here and I had to keep dragging him back a bit,” said the jockey. “But he was brave, jumped the last two very well and stuck at it up the hill. It’s great for the boss, and John Kiely has done a fantastic job with him. He won here last year, he had him spot on for today and there was no doubt the Galway Plate was his target from that day.
    “You always give good rides when they win but he was very tough and genuine — anyone would have won on him. All credit should go to the trainer.”

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    Donn was impressed

    Carlingford Lough was well-backed in the end for the Galway Plate, but his performance in winning the race may still be under-rated a little.

    He did remarkably well to win. He was crowded at a lot of his fences, he tried to jump to his left at several of them, and he found it hard to get into a rhythm. He did jump the last two fences in the Dip well, and that was crucial, and he stayed on really well up the hill. He hadn’t looked like winning at all before the second last fence, and even after the last he still had a lot of work to do before he picked up impressively under a powerful AP McCoy drive.

    He was 11lb lower for this than he is over hurdles, so he was potentially a very well handicapped horse, but he still had to go and win the race. The manner in which he kept on up the hill after having such a torrid time on the way around, was impressive, as was the winning time, the best on the day by some way, and 0.23secs/furlong faster than Racing Post par.

    JP McManus’ horse can go on from this, this experience should have been good for his confidence, he has always had the potential to be a very good handicap chaser (he was sent off as favourite for the Irish National last season as a novice), and he will still be very interesting off his new mark of 147. That is a stone higher than the mark off which he raced in the Plate, but it is only 4lb higher than his hurdle mark, so he still has plenty of leeway in that.

    He should get three miles, he should be better on better ground, and he could be better going back left-handed on this evidence, despite his record at Galway over hurdles and fences, which now reads 11331. He could be a horse for the Paddy Power Chase at Cheltenham in November, or for the Paddy Power Chase at Leopardstown over Christmas. He obviously goes well on testing tracks, and Cheltenham could suit him well. He could also be a horse for next year’s Cheltenham Festival. Even if he doesn’t go to Cheltenham in November, there could be another good handicap chase in him before he steps up to graded chases, and it wouldn’t be surprising to see him at least hold his own in the top chases (he is a half-brother to Thisthatandtother and Thetotherone). He is only seven and this was just his ninth chase so he has plenty of scope to continue progressing.

    31st July 2013
    Last edited by Old Vic; 12-31-2013 at 07:08 AM.

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    Drinmore Chase RU

    Last edited by Old Vic; 12-31-2013 at 07:09 AM.

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    Top earner this season now

    Ruby Walsh looked set for a big race double when powering market leader, Morning Assembly, ahead at the last, but McCoy wasn’t to be denied and Carlingford Lough readily swept past on the flat.

    “He got a very good ride and was produced at the right time”, said Kiely. “We all learnt from the Drinmore (Fairyhouse), we went a bit too soon.

    “We will see how he is and then make plans. It is nice this has happened, he just keeps improving.”

    Asked if the SunAlliance at Cheltenham was now an option, Kiely responded: “We will do what we’re told.”

    Grade 1 Topaz Novices Chase at Leopardstown
    Last edited by Old Vic; 12-31-2013 at 07:09 AM.

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    Carlingford Lough 2014 Cheltenham Festival Odds

    as at 31/12/2013

    BetVictor Odds are NRFB
    RSA CHASE 12/1 14/1 10/1 12/1

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    Carlingford Lough is set for a crucial workout at the weekend ahead of a possible crack at the Lexus Chase at Leopardstown over Christmas.

    The John Kiely-trained eight-year-old, winner of the Growise Champion Novice Chase at Punchestown in April, has been sidelined with a setback recently, but could return for the big race on 28 December.

    One of the leading novice chasers in Ireland last season, he also won the Topaz Novice Chase from Morning Assembly, but was only sixth in the RSA Chase at Cheltenham.

    "He'll work at the weekend and we'll see how he is. If he's OK he'll go there," said Frank Berry, racing manager to owner J P McManus.

    "He had a bit of a mishap before Down Royal but it looks like he's back on track again."

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    A sea of blue on oddschecker.

    Pricewise for Gold Cup?

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